[MD] Emptiness & Quantum Mechancics

[MarshaV]

Hi Mark,

From the Buddhist side, things exist interdependently.  For example, all things 
depend upon being designated or imputed by consciousness.  From a MoQ 
point-of-view, this is why I am so interested in the nature of patterns, all patterns.  
And I have determined that they are ever-changing, impermanent, interdependent.

Isn't the reason we're in this forum is to discover the nature of reality?  What it is:
Quality(unpatterned experience/patterned experience.)  What it is not: an  
independent existing self and independent existing objects.   

Marsha  






On Oct 9, 2010, at 1:08 AM, 118 wrote:

> I guess it depends on how you define existence.  So, what kind of existence
> is left, non-essence, acquired existence, extrinsic existence, relative
> existence, codependent existence?  Maybe we are all enabling each other,
> give me a cigarette this is too heavy.
> 
> On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 9:36 PM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> To further expand:
>> 
>> Emptiness is the concept that self and all phenomenon are empty of essence,
>> inherent existence, independent existence, intrinsic existence and absolute
>> existence.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 8, 2010, at 2:13 PM, MarshaV wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> To expand:
>>> 
>>> Emptiness is the concept that self and all phenomenon are empty of
>> essence, inherent existence, and independent existence.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 8, 2010, at 1:47 PM, MarshaV wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Emptiness is concept that self and all phenomenon are empty of inherent
>> existence.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Oct 8, 2010, at 1:25 PM, Andre Broersen wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> John to Marsha:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Meditate.  But don't meditate upon nothingness, or you will obtain
>>>>> nothingness.  Meditate upon truth and you will know truth.  It's really
>> very
>>>>> simple.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Andre:
>>>>> John, I'll be honest and say that I have not followed the entire thread
>> but this caught my attention.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Prey tell, what is your understanding of 'nothingness' (in Buddhism)
>> and what is 'truth'(in radical empiricism)?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think you need to be clear on these two concepts before you burden
>> Marsha with meditating on them.
>>>>> Trying to follow Marsha's frame of mind it sounds like an eternal
>> condemnation into reified and at the
>>>>> same time relativized sq....she'll go nuts!!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tell me John, is this your true hidden agenda in all this?...get rid of
>> the bitch!
>> 
>> 
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