[MD] Emptiness & Quantum Mechancics

[X Acto]

sure you do

you have knowledge of what you like and dislike

you have knowledge of Quality


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From: MarshaV <valkyr at att.net>
To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
Sent: Sat, October 9, 2010 8:45:41 AM
Subject: Re: [MD] Emptiness & Quantum Mechancics


The question was to John's explanation of an 
_Absolute_ measure of truth because he claims 
that one exists.  I do not consider my measurement 
of truth as absolute.  I have no knowledge of what 
is Absolute.  



On Oct 9, 2010, at 8:19 AM, X Acto wrote:

> You already posses it Marsha. 
> Your own values
> your collection of likes and dislikes
> put to work in everymoment of experience.
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> ----- Original Message ----
> From: MarshaV <valkyr at att.net>
> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> Sent: Thu, October 7, 2010 1:48:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [MD] Emptiness & Quantum Mechancics
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> 
> Hi John,
> 
> What is this Absolute measure of truth?  Where is it?  How can I 
> get access to it to apply it when necessary?  
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> 
> Marsha  
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> On Oct 7, 2010, at 1:12 PM, John Carl wrote:
> 
>> Yeah, dave, I sorta figured you were referring to to philosophical
>> relativism rather than physical relativism.  In my book, the latter refutes
>> the former.  I've always argued against Relativism in my philosophic
>> disputations also.  So I with you on that one.
>> 
>> dmb says:
>>> If you are talking within the context of physics, "relativity" is about
>>> time and space. In the context of philosophy, however, relativism is a
>>> position on truth and morality. So Einstein's theory is not in dispute here.
>>> The dispute is about epistemological relativity and its relation to the
>>> pragmatic theory of truth. That is the context in which "relativity" means
>>> there is no standard by which to measure things like truth and moral values.
>>> As you may have noticed, I think relativism is a very bad idea with very bad
>>> consequences and I think the pragmatic theory of truth is NOT a form of
>>> relativism.
>>> 
>> 
>> Usually though, my disputation takes the form of Relativism vs. Absolutism,
>> and since you and I agree on disparaging Relativism, I'm puzzled how you can
>> disagree with me that Truth is an Absolute Ideal. Even if you make
>> Experience your Absolute, it is still, an Absolute.
>> 
>> John
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