[MD] Emptiness & Quantum Mechancics

[MarshaV]

Marsha:
I do not consider my measurement of truth as absolute.  
I have no knowledge of what is Absolute.  



On Oct 9, 2010, at 9:02 AM, X Acto wrote:

> sure you do
> 
> you have knowledge of what you like and dislike
> 
> you have knowledge of Quality
> 
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> From: MarshaV <valkyr at att.net>
> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> Sent: Sat, October 9, 2010 8:45:41 AM
> Subject: Re: [MD] Emptiness & Quantum Mechancics
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> Marsha:
> The question was to John's explanation of an 
> _Absolute_ measure of truth because he claims 
> that one exists.  I do not consider my measurement 
> of truth as absolute.  I have no knowledge of what 
> is Absolute.  
> 
> 
> 
> On Oct 9, 2010, at 8:19 AM, X Acto wrote:
> 
>> You already posses it Marsha. 
>> Your own values
>> your collection of likes and dislikes
>> put to work in everymoment of experience.
>> 
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>>   
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>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: MarshaV <valkyr at att.net>
>> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
>> Sent: Thu, October 7, 2010 1:48:23 PM
>> Subject: Re: [MD] Emptiness & Quantum Mechancics
>> 
>> 
>> Hi John,
>> 
>> What is this Absolute measure of truth?  Where is it?  How can I 
>> get access to it to apply it when necessary?  
>> 
>> 
>> Marsha  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 7, 2010, at 1:12 PM, John Carl wrote:
>> 
>>> Yeah, dave, I sorta figured you were referring to to philosophical
>>> relativism rather than physical relativism.  In my book, the latter refutes
>>> the former.  I've always argued against Relativism in my philosophic
>>> disputations also.  So I with you on that one.
>>> 
>>> dmb says:
>>>> If you are talking within the context of physics, "relativity" is about
>>>> time and space. In the context of philosophy, however, relativism is a
>>>> position on truth and morality. So Einstein's theory is not in dispute here.
>>>> The dispute is about epistemological relativity and its relation to the
>>>> pragmatic theory of truth. That is the context in which "relativity" means
>>>> there is no standard by which to measure things like truth and moral values.
>>>> As you may have noticed, I think relativism is a very bad idea with very bad
>>>> consequences and I think the pragmatic theory of truth is NOT a form of
>>>> relativism.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Usually though, my disputation takes the form of Relativism vs. Absolutism,
>>> and since you and I agree on disparaging Relativism, I'm puzzled how you can
>>> disagree with me that Truth is an Absolute Ideal. Even if you make
>>> Experience your Absolute, it is still, an Absolute.
>>> 
>>> John
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