[MD] Quality(DQ/sq)
MarshaV
valkyr at att.net
Wed Oct 13 05:57:53 PDT 2010
Adrie,
Here's what I wrote yesterday:
On Oct 12, 2010, at 1:27 PM, MarshaV wrote:
I have repeatedly stated I am interested in considering the MoQ as a bridge between East and
West.
On Oct 13, 2010, at 8:54 AM, MarshaV wrote:
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> Stranger still that you use the word "demanding" when I did no such thing.
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> On Oct 13, 2010, at 8:44 AM, ADRIE KINTZIGER wrote:
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>> Very strange to see that you were only yesterday, demanding the moq to be
>> the bridge between the east and west,
>> whilst it always was since it was stated, the moq is the bridge between the
>> East and west , Marsha,Like
>> Anthony pointed out.
>> The moq makes no difference between an Eskimo-thinker, a scientist, or a
>> bhuddist,because there is no difference,
>> They are all thinkers.
>> Quality is not different for darker or lighter colored people.Quality is
>> quality. Nothing else.
>>
>> 2010/10/13 MarshaV <valkyr at att.net>
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>>> As noted above, Pirsig uses the term ‘Dynamic Quality’ (to denote the
>>> continually changing flux of immediate reality) and ‘static quality’ (for
>>> any pattern that appears long enough to be abstracted from this flux).
>>> ‘Static quality’ refers to anything that can be conceptualised and is a
>>> synonym for the conditioned in Buddhist philosophy.
>>>
>>> (McWatt,Anthony, 'MoQ Textbook)
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>>> On Oct 13, 2010, at 1:32 AM, MarshaV wrote:
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>>>>
>>>> Below it state that the fundemental nature of static quality is Dynamic
>>> Quality:
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>>>> Moreover, Nagarjuna (1966, p.251) shares Pirsig’s perception that the
>>> indeterminate (or Dynamic) is the fundamental nature of the conditioned (or
>>> static):
>>>>
>>>> In their ultimate nature things are devoid of conditionedness
>>>> and contingency belongs to this level. This very truth is revealed
>>>> by also saying that all things ultimately enter the indeterminate
>>>> dharma or that within the heart of every conditioned entity (as its
>>>> core, as its true essence, as its very real nature) there is the
>>>> indeterminate dharma. While the one expresses the transcendence
>>>> of the ultimate reality, the other speaks of its immanence. The one
>>>> says that the ultimate reality is not an entity apart and wholly
>>>> removed from the determinate, but is the real nature of the
>>>> determinate itself.
>>>>
>>>> Nagarjuna and Pirsig also have a similar recognition of two types of
>>> truth; the ‘static’ conventional truth (sammuti-sacca) and the ‘Dynamic’
>>> ultimate truth (paramattha-sacca).
>>>>
>>>> (Mcwatt,Anthony, 'MoQ Textbook)
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