[MD] Quality(DQ/sq)

MarshaV valkyr at att.net
Wed Oct 13 05:57:53 PDT 2010


Adrie,

Here's what I wrote yesterday:


On Oct 12, 2010, at 1:27 PM, MarshaV wrote:
I have repeatedly stated I am interested in considering the MoQ as a bridge between East and 
West.
 




On Oct 13, 2010, at 8:54 AM, MarshaV wrote:

> 
> 
> Stranger still that you use the word "demanding" when I did no such thing.
> 
> 
> On Oct 13, 2010, at 8:44 AM, ADRIE KINTZIGER wrote:
> 
>> Very strange to see that you were only yesterday, demanding the moq to be
>> the bridge between the east and west,
>> whilst it always was since it was stated, the moq is the bridge between the
>> East and west , Marsha,Like
>> Anthony pointed out.
>> The moq makes no difference between an Eskimo-thinker, a scientist, or a
>> bhuddist,because there is no difference,
>> They are all thinkers.
>> Quality is not different for darker or lighter colored people.Quality is
>> quality. Nothing else.
>> 
>> 2010/10/13 MarshaV <valkyr at att.net>
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> As noted above, Pirsig uses the term ‘Dynamic Quality’ (to denote the
>>> continually changing flux of immediate reality) and ‘static quality’ (for
>>> any pattern that appears long enough to be abstracted from this flux).
>>> ‘Static quality’ refers to anything that can be conceptualised and is a
>>> synonym for the conditioned in Buddhist philosophy.
>>> 
>>>       (McWatt,Anthony, 'MoQ Textbook)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 13, 2010, at 1:32 AM, MarshaV wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Below it state that the fundemental nature of static quality is Dynamic
>>> Quality:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Moreover, Nagarjuna (1966, p.251) shares Pirsig’s perception that the
>>> indeterminate (or Dynamic) is the fundamental nature of the conditioned (or
>>> static):
>>>> 
>>>>   In their ultimate nature things are devoid of conditionedness
>>>>   and contingency belongs to this level. This very truth is revealed
>>>>   by also saying that all things ultimately enter the indeterminate
>>>>   dharma or that within the heart of every conditioned entity (as its
>>>>   core, as its true essence, as its very real nature) there is the
>>>>   indeterminate dharma. While the one expresses the transcendence
>>>>   of the ultimate reality, the other speaks of its immanence. The one
>>>>   says that the ultimate reality is not an entity apart and wholly
>>>>   removed from the determinate, but is the real nature of the
>>>>   determinate itself.
>>>> 
>>>> Nagarjuna and Pirsig also have a similar recognition of two types of
>>> truth; the ‘static’ conventional truth (sammuti-sacca) and the ‘Dynamic’
>>> ultimate truth (paramattha-sacca).
>>>> 
>>>>        (Mcwatt,Anthony, 'MoQ Textbook)
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