[MD] Quality(DQ/sq)

MarshaV valkyr at att.net
Wed Oct 13 06:25:10 PDT 2010


Adrie,

There's nothing wrong with any of the annotations.  End of discussion.  
You waste my time with psychological baloney.   


Marsha 



On Oct 13, 2010, at 9:13 AM, ADRIE KINTZIGER wrote:

> Exactly what do you think there is wrong with annotations 130.131.133.etc,
> you know what i mean,
> do you see decoherence? is there decoherence? please enlighten me, don't
> spare any detail.
> 
> I have some comment on the Dan/Marsha interactions, if you like me to post
> them , make an effort to work on 130.131.133.etc
> 
> 
> demanding , yes , maybe wrong choice of me, it was based on the summa of
> earlier postings, the time/content line
> showed some demanding connotation.I don't think i have the look and feel
> wrong.
> 
> You just quoted Anthony on the bridge between east and west.
> Greetzz, Adrie
> 
> 2010/10/13 MarshaV <valkyr at att.net>
> 
>> Greetings:
>> 
>> I posted these quotes to point to the nature of static quality.
>> 
>> 
>> Marsha
>> 
>> On Oct 13, 2010, at 5:38 AM, MarshaV wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> As noted above, Pirsig uses the term ‘Dynamic Quality’ (to denote the
>> continually changing flux of immediate reality) and ‘static quality’ (for
>> any pattern that appears long enough to be abstracted from this flux).
>> ‘Static quality’ refers to anything that can be conceptualised and is a
>> synonym for the conditioned in Buddhist philosophy.
>>> 
>>>       (McWatt,Anthony, 'MoQ Textbook)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 13, 2010, at 1:32 AM, MarshaV wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Below it state that the fundemental nature of static quality is Dynamic
>> Quality:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Moreover, Nagarjuna (1966, p.251) shares Pirsig’s perception that the
>> indeterminate (or Dynamic) is the fundamental nature of the conditioned (or
>> static):
>>>> 
>>>>   In their ultimate nature things are devoid of conditionedness
>>>>   and contingency belongs to this level. This very truth is revealed
>>>>   by also saying that all things ultimately enter the indeterminate
>>>>   dharma or that within the heart of every conditioned entity (as its
>>>>   core, as its true essence, as its very real nature) there is the
>>>>   indeterminate dharma. While the one expresses the transcendence
>>>>   of the ultimate reality, the other speaks of its immanence. The one
>>>>   says that the ultimate reality is not an entity apart and wholly
>>>>   removed from the determinate, but is the real nature of the
>>>>   determinate itself.
>>>> 
>>>> Nagarjuna and Pirsig also have a similar recognition of two types of
>> truth; the ‘static’ conventional truth (sammuti-sacca) and the ‘Dynamic’
>> ultimate truth (paramattha-sacca).
>>>> 
>>>>        (Mcwatt,Anthony, 'MoQ Textbook)
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