[MD] Step One

MarshaV valkyr at att.net
Thu Oct 14 23:41:01 PDT 2010


On Oct 14, 2010, at 11:12 PM, Dan Glover wrote:

> Hello everyone
> 
> On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 4:40 PM, X Acto <xacto at rocketmail.com> wrote:
>> John, Dan,
>> 
>> It seems there are differing aspects of Quality being discussed.
>> 
>> The arguement focusing on which types of Quality are best.
>> 
>> While re-examining the root, as Dan suggests, can elimenate alot
>> 
>> of false dilemma and reinstate what has greater meaning in ones life,
>> 
>> we do so from an intellectual perspective, which is what I believe John
>> 
>> is driving at, clarity of meaning in our lives.
>> 
>> This not only begins with this re-evaluation of the organic experience, but it
>> 
>> guides and drives our social and intellectual values as well.
>> 
>> Organic quality would not have the same pleasure of experience if it was
>> 
>> not shared socially or reflected apon, for greater understanding intellectually
>> 
>> which is the true flower of the totality of experience.
>> 
>> Would'nt one say that greater understanding has resulted in better organic
>> Quality?
>> 
>> better social Quality?
>> 
>> Doesent it make our reasons for holding certain organic and social values
>> 
>> better by constantly reflecting and re-defining them?
>> 
>> concerning the ego climber, who is it that asserts the ego more?
>> 
>> the one examing the self and defining it with their values or the one
>> 
>> denying it exists?
>> 
>> is not denial of self one of the most insidious acts of selfishness?
> 
> Dan:
> 
> Hi Ron
> 
> I don't know for sure, but I would say that the selfless existence
> doesn't mean denying the self so much as it means realizing the self
> doesn't exist in light of the Buddha's teachings.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Dan"



Dan,

I wonder what you mean by 'realizing in the light of the Buddha's teaching.'
Isn't the Buddha's teachings pointing a finger to the moon, and shouldn't  
one go beyond the pointing finger, in other words, realize directly, at least 
try?  But maybe that's what you are saying.   


Marsha 
 
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