[MD] The Moral Landscape

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Just thought I'd jump in.

An eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth, something like that is also in the
bible.  The Buddhist version seems pretty bland to me, it would not result
in any creation.  There would be no pushy entanglement resulting in
something new.  I could get into the economic benefits of haggling over
trade rather than isolationism, but that is so boring.  So, I am more in
favor of the doing rather than the not doing.  Do unto others to get them
off their arse.

Mark

On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 8:45 AM, Ian Glendinning
<ian.glendinning at gmail.com>wrote:

> Andre,
>
> Anybody suggesting "We've been kicked in the ass, so we'll have to
> kick back" is suggesting getting even .... a complete perversion of "do as
> you would be done by".
>
> Would = would wish to be.
>
> It's just a simple statement of the Buddhist (Vedic and earlier) golden
> rule
> "don't do as you would not be done by if you prefer". It's a proactive
> statement about living life.
>
> Who's the cynic ?
> Ian
>
> On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 3:57 PM, Andre Broersen <andrebroersen at gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> >  Ian to Craig and Horse:
> >
> > Apart from hoping people recognize "harm" when they (don't) see it, this
> is
> > simply the golden rule "do as you would be done by" ... core to the
> origins
> > of many (most) moral traditions.
> >
> > Andre:
> > Yes, and very Western as well and to be cynical about it, this is the
> > motivational feeding stuff
> > of any tough business person in our competitive world. (I'll knife your
> > back and you'll knife
> > mine), and many not so tough people I might add.
> >
> > I was laid off once because the company I worked for went into
> receivership
> > ('taken over' by the bank).
> > The way the boss explained it (in an apologetic way):'We've been kicked
> in
> > the ass, so we'll have to kick
> > back'. I understood completely but I am still a bit vague as to why I was
> > kicked as well( and a few
> > others I might add).
> >
> > I like the 'Eastern' 'enlightened' variant a bit better which Steve Hagen
> > gives in his
> > "Buddhism, plain and simple': 'Do not do unto others what you would not
> > have done unto you'.(p 90)
> >
> > It is passive and seems more positive than the moralistic 'do as you
> would
> > be done by' which implies
> > you should do something or move into action or something...but what?
> >
> >
> >
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