[MD] The Moral Landscape
ADRIE KINTZIGER
parser666 at gmail.com
Wed Oct 20 09:39:59 PDT 2010
ADRIE KINTZIGER
aan moq_discuss
details weergeven 00:35 (17 uren geleden)
As for not believing in any religion, you're wrong. I believe in
the religion
of individual liberty to think and act as one wishes (without
direct harm to
others) and to accept responsibility for the consequences of one's
choices in
life -- the religion of "endowed by their Creator with certain
unalienable
Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of
Happiness.
Hitler was not showing direct harm to his own environment on the
"Adelaarsnest"mountain,
Hitler took all responsability and consequenses personally,
together with 6 million evaporated jews and 20 million
european's, The number of Americans that died on Omaha, Utah, etc
beach remains unknown until today.
There are no exact figure's about Poland, Russia, Oekraine, etc.
The pursuit of life liberty, and happiness was called the surch for
'Lebensraum", space to live.
Platt Holden
aan moq_discuss
details weergeven 01:38 (16 uren geleden)
Hi Adrie,
Did you miss the part about direct harm to others? And are you not
glad that
Americans, many of whom live by the creed I believe in, freed your country
from
the Nazi boot?
I'm constantly amazed at the lack of gratitude from those the U.S. has
liberated.
Platt.
Platt Holden
aan moq_discuss
details weergeven 01:54 (16 uren geleden)
Hi Adrie,
I guess you don't believe in free speech. Neither did Stalin, Hitler, Mao
and all other
dictators. On gaining power, that's the first thing dictators insist on --
"Nyet" free speech.
Pirsig understood. Free speech is an intellectually-based individual right
against
the force of social conformity.
Platt
ADRIE KINTZIGER
aan moq_discuss
details weergeven 10:56 (7 uren geleden)
No , i did not miss the part"direct harm", it is the direct-widget in
combination with the word harm that i find offensive, Platt
the indirect impied implication is lethal,and my gratitude towards the
Liberating Americans, Canadians ans all the
Allied forces is incredible, pure and without questioning.
I am gratefull for all the value's given to us, really , especially the
impact of the Marshall-plan, and the generosity of the
Americans in general. I am one of those rare people, Platt ,visiting the
Warcemetery's physikally, to pay them respect.
And Yes , i strongly believe in free speech, and all this right we need.
I am also aware of the fact that some social corrections are needed, to
filter out the nature of the beast, the evil within us all.
Free speech, without violating other people's rights.
The rights we need to have, without abuse of rights, rights can be expoited.
And i will treath you correct , Platt, if you leave your cocoon of
defaitism.
----- Original Message ----- From: "ADRIE KINTZIGER" <parser666 at gmail.com>
To: <moq_discuss at moqtalk.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 4:56 AM
Subject: Re: [MD] The Moral Landscape
No , i did not miss the part"direct harm", it is the direct-widget in
combination with the word harm that i find offensive, Platt
the indirect impied implication is lethal,and my gratitude towards the
Liberating Americans, Canadians ans all the
Allied forces is incredible, pure and without questioning.
I am gratefull for all the value's given to us, really , especially the
impact of the Marshall-plan, and the generosity of the
Americans in general. I am one of those rare people, Platt ,visiting the
Warcemetery's physikally, to pay them respect.
Platt
Glad to hear of your gratitude to America. But, your statement about
"direct harm" is incomprehensible.
And Yes , i strongly believe in free speech, and all this right we need.
I am also aware of the fact that some social corrections are needed, to
filter out the nature of the beast, the evil within us all.
Free speech, without violating other people's rights.
The rights we need to have, without abuse of rights, rights can be
expoited.
What rights are you talking about. The right not to be offended? Is that
your
idea of a right?
And i will treath you correct , Platt, if you leave your cocoon of
defaitism.
Platt
Another incomprehensible statement.
-----------------------------
So , Platt, to come back on the incomprihensible part,..
Hitler was not a direct harm to his own environment, etc
quoting myself....
"Hitler was not showing direct harm to his own environment on the
"Adelaarsnest"mountain,
Hitler took all responsability and consequenses personally,
together with 6 million evaporated jews and 20 million
european's, The number of Americans that died on Omaha, Utah, etc
beach remains unknown until today.
There are no exact figure's about Poland, Russia, Oekraine, etc.
The pursuit of life liberty, and happiness was called the surch for
'Lebensraum", space to live."-end quote.
Wich part is a problem to understand? the part about the direct harm, taking
the consequentes, or the defaitism?
I like to clarify something Platt, you once showed us something of your
work, and i am very convinced that it was of an extraordinary
quality,and i still think it was topquality,proved you are very intelligent
and capable.
I think you quoted Ant on it, telling you that it was exellent,
and i agree, it was a pearl.
And i honored you for it , Platt, i still do,but to be quit honest,
i think you should leave the stadler& Waldorff balcony, and show some
quality again.
I will treat you correct Platt, if you leave your cocoon of defaitism.
Adrie
2010/10/20 Platt Holden <plattholden at gmail.com>
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> No , i did not miss the part"direct harm", it is the direct-widget in
>> combination with the word harm that i find offensive, Platt
>> the indirect impied implication is lethal,and my gratitude towards the
>> Liberating Americans, Canadians ans all the
>> Allied forces is incredible, pure and without questioning.
>> I am gratefull for all the value's given to us, really , especially the
>> impact of the Marshall-plan, and the generosity of the
>> Americans in general. I am one of those rare people, Platt ,visiting the
>> Warcemetery's physikally, to pay them respect.
>>
>
> Platt
> Glad to hear of your gratitude to America. But, your statement about
> "direct harm" is incomprehensible.
>
>
> And Yes , i strongly believe in free speech, and all this right we need.
>> I am also aware of the fact that some social corrections are needed, to
>> filter out the nature of the beast, the evil within us all.
>> Free speech, without violating other people's rights.
>>
>> The rights we need to have, without abuse of rights, rights can be
>> expoited.
>>
>
> What rights are you talking about. The right not to be offended? Is that
> your
> idea of a right?
>
>
> And i will treath you correct , Platt, if you leave your cocoon of
>> defaitism.
>>
>
> Platt
> Another incomprehensible statement.
>
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