[MD] Earth the Centre of the Universe

[Ian Glendinning]

Mark,
You are actually missing my point ...
"the percentage you give to scientist for allowing in the subjective"

My point is ALL scientists allow the subjective, more than they know,
AND 99.999% of them would deny doing it in the name of scientific
argument, no ?

The problem is the denial, the dishonesty, the neurosis.
Ian

On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 6:02 PM, 118 <ununoctiums at gmail.com> wrote:
> Ian,
> I am not sure of the percentage you give to scientist for allowing in the
> subjective; it is common in particle physics these days.  But I would agree
> with the intent of the statement.  Most scientist that I have met over the
> years think they are doing more than they are.  But why not?  I think that
> way often, provides more purpose and drive.  It is those that follow along
> thinking they are being led to truth that need a knock on the head.  Yes, I
> am advocating knocking on the head, shocking!
>
> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 9:52 AM, Ian Glendinning
> <ian.glendinning at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Mark you are having your cake and eating it (which I approve of), but
>> comment inserted ..
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 5:42 PM, 118 <ununoctiums at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Both,
>> >
>> > It is a matter of choice whether we are in the center or not.  They are
>> > perspectives which are both right (or wrong if you want to approach it
>> that
>> > way: Not this, Not that).  The choice of description is yours, science
>> can
>> > be used to explain both sides.
>>
>> [IG] You gotta admit Mark that 99.999% of "scientists" would find that
>> enigmatic statement highly unscientific ? Squaring a matter of
>> (subjective) personal choice with falsifiable, (objective) empirical
>> science.
>>
>> >
>> > I have posted before that the big band theory does not explain all the
>> data,
>> > a static universe is more plausible.  I think the far reaches of
>> evolution
>> > theory impact our choices these days.
>>
>> [IG] Good. Then you must be interested in following the links I
>> provided, and commenting on what you find ? (I've been pushing these
>> for several years now, but more recently I noticed "Into The Cool" by
>> Schneider and Sagan. Anybody read it ?)
>> Very long link over multiple lines :
>>
>> http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=wXK6R_ygxCgC&printsec=frontcover&dq=Schneider+and+Sagan&source=bl&ots=qTsumkwPJl&sig=nk0d0bEyAghpj04zzQTHW8L-rsc&hl=en&ei=qRe_TID2DoOQjAfnxNSLAg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBUQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false
>>
>> > There is the infinitely bigger, and
>> > the infinitely smaller, and it so happens that we are EXACTLY in the
>> middle.
>> >  Chance?  I think not.
>>
>> [IG] Ditto  (emoticon of face with the expression of wonder and
>> > disdain).
>> >
>> > Mark
>> >
>> > On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 2:37 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Ian,
>> >>
>> >> The Wallace book 'Choosing Reality' was enlightening.  It will take
>> >> much more than a Hawking to resurrect it.  It's hard to keep from
>> >> laughing at his program comments.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Marsha
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Oct 20, 2010, at 5:33 AM, Ian Glendinning wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > If science is right it appears Copernicus was right all along, and the
>> >> Earth
>> >> > really is the centre of the universe.
>> >> > http://www.psybertron.org/?p=3589
>> >> > (Clue - science is wrong - shock, horror ;-o )
>> >> >
>> >> > Ian
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