[MD] Earth the Centre of the Universe

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On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 10:09 AM, Ian Glendinning <ian.glendinning at gmail.com
> wrote:

> Mark,
> You are actually missing my point ...
> "the percentage you give to scientist for allowing in the subjective"
>
> My point is ALL scientists allow the subjective, more than they know,
> AND 99.999% of them would deny doing it in the name of scientific
> argument, no ?
>
> The problem is the denial, the dishonesty, the neurosis.
>

Yes Ian, I agree with you.  This is my point being a scientist myself.
Mark

> Ian
>
> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 6:02 PM, 118 <ununoctiums at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Ian,
> > I am not sure of the percentage you give to scientist for allowing in the
> > subjective; it is common in particle physics these days.  But I would
> agree
> > with the intent of the statement.  Most scientist that I have met over
> the
> > years think they are doing more than they are.  But why not?  I think
> that
> > way often, provides more purpose and drive.  It is those that follow
> along
> > thinking they are being led to truth that need a knock on the head.  Yes,
> I
> > am advocating knocking on the head, shocking!
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 9:52 AM, Ian Glendinning
> > <ian.glendinning at gmail.com>wrote:
> >
> >> Mark you are having your cake and eating it (which I approve of), but
> >> comment inserted ..
> >>
> >> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 5:42 PM, 118 <ununoctiums at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Both,
> >> >
> >> > It is a matter of choice whether we are in the center or not.  They
> are
> >> > perspectives which are both right (or wrong if you want to approach it
> >> that
> >> > way: Not this, Not that).  The choice of description is yours, science
> >> can
> >> > be used to explain both sides.
> >>
> >> [IG] You gotta admit Mark that 99.999% of "scientists" would find that
> >> enigmatic statement highly unscientific ? Squaring a matter of
> >> (subjective) personal choice with falsifiable, (objective) empirical
> >> science.
> >>
> >> >
> >> > I have posted before that the big band theory does not explain all the
> >> data,
> >> > a static universe is more plausible.  I think the far reaches of
> >> evolution
> >> > theory impact our choices these days.
> >>
> >> [IG] Good. Then you must be interested in following the links I
> >> provided, and commenting on what you find ? (I've been pushing these
> >> for several years now, but more recently I noticed "Into The Cool" by
> >> Schneider and Sagan. Anybody read it ?)
> >> Very long link over multiple lines :
> >>
> >>
> http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=wXK6R_ygxCgC&printsec=frontcover&dq=Schneider+and+Sagan&source=bl&ots=qTsumkwPJl&sig=nk0d0bEyAghpj04zzQTHW8L-rsc&hl=en&ei=qRe_TID2DoOQjAfnxNSLAg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBUQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false
> >>
> >> > There is the infinitely bigger, and
> >> > the infinitely smaller, and it so happens that we are EXACTLY in the
> >> middle.
> >> >  Chance?  I think not.
> >>
> >> [IG] Ditto  (emoticon of face with the expression of wonder and
> >> > disdain).
> >> >
> >> > Mark
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 2:37 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Ian,
> >> >>
> >> >> The Wallace book 'Choosing Reality' was enlightening.  It will take
> >> >> much more than a Hawking to resurrect it.  It's hard to keep from
> >> >> laughing at his program comments.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Marsha
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Oct 20, 2010, at 5:33 AM, Ian Glendinning wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > If science is right it appears Copernicus was right all along, and
> the
> >> >> Earth
> >> >> > really is the centre of the universe.
> >> >> > http://www.psybertron.org/?p=3589
> >> >> > (Clue - science is wrong - shock, horror ;-o )
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Ian
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