[MD] Tea Bagging

[Horse]

  Hi Mark
Have you never heard of the wolf in sheep's clothing or that politicians 
(and certain folk around here) tell lies?

Horse

On 23/10/2010 06:01, 118 wrote:
> Hi Horse,
> Now, I am not a historian but I have read a few books, The Rise and the Fall
> of the Third Reich being one of them.  My father lived through the war in
> Holland and I have had many discussions with him.   In my opinion Platt is
> correct in saying that the Nazi party (NSP) started as a socialist party.
>   It named itself the German Worker's Party, which has obvious socialist
> overtones.  The party came to power due to a depression.  The NSP promised
> the middle class it would fix all the problems (never said how).  The NSP
> had an extensive welfare system (also a socialist premise), which gave them
> more power.  Living conditions for the masses improved under the NSP.
>
> Fascism can have benign connotations if we separate it from the war
> atrocities. In fact Italian fascism was quite popular, and Mussolini was a
> socialist journalist.  The economic model is that all production is in the
> control of the government, or very large corporations (socialist).
>
> Hegel followers and others were looking for an alternative to common
> socialism with many of the same attributes.  They thought fascism it would
> result in harmony between social classes (also a socialist ideal).  It was a
> top down approach, which is also socialist.    All of these words now have
> different meanings due to the ghastly war, but these Germans and Italians
> were not stupid, they were indeed looking for a better society.
>
> But unfortunately (and I will end with a poem by Robert Burns):
>
> The best laid schemes of mice and men
> Go often askew.
> And leave us nothing but grief and pain,
> For promised joy!
>
> Be skeptical of the intellect...
>
> It's all on the Internet
>
> Cheers,
> Mark
>
>

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