[MD] Tea Bagging

[plattholden at gmail.com]

Instead of addressing what I wrote, Horse, you take the tactic so often used by 
the left -- demonizing (Platteral shift, propaganda, bluster) The only attempt 
you made to argue reasonably  was to claim that capitalists and corporatists 
fit the description I gave, an obvious error since both arise from free 
markets, the opposite of communism, socialism, fascism, etc.  .

On 23 Oct 2010 at 3:14, Horse wrote:

  Yes Platt - one of your specialities, the Platteral shift.
You say the Fascists were socialists (or as you prefer, communists), I 
call you on it and you go into one about something or other that's 
completely irrelevant and try and avoid the question.
When will you stop with the propaganda and bluster?
The Nazis, whatever the nickname, were right-wing, not left-wing and all 
your blustering to avoid your own right-wing bias won't hide that fact.
A couple of groups you conveniently left out below are the capitalists 
and corporatists which, as Steve pointed out via Mussolini, are the 
beneficiaries of the fascist legacy.

Horse


On 23/10/2010 02:04, plattholden at gmail.com wrote:
> On 23 Oct 2010 at 1:02, Horse wrote:
>
>    For the last 10+ years Platt you've been telling me that socialism and
> communism are the same thing.
> So are you now trying to tell us that, in reality, the Nazi's were
> communists?
> You've been arguing for years that words don't mean what they mean by
> doing exactly this.
> Please explain how the Nazi's were communists.
>
> Socialists, communists, fascists, statists, liberals, progressives and the like
> all seek similar means to the same end -- heaven on earth by government taking
> responsibility for all aspects of life and imposing uniformity of thought and
> action by force. Nazism, like communism et al, is a religion of the state. The
> conflicts between Nazis and communists (and why some think they are different)
> were battles for power, not ultimate goals.
>
> Platt

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