[MD] Tea Bagging

Horse horse at darkstar.uk.net
Sat Oct 23 06:12:40 PDT 2010


  Again with the twisting and distortion.
You twist and distort, others call you on it and you come back with more 
twisting and distortion.
Platt-onic discourse.

Horse

On 23/10/2010 13:55, plattholden at gmail.com wrote:
> Instead of addressing what I wrote, Horse, you take the tactic so often used by
> the left -- demonizing (Platteral shift, propaganda, bluster) The only attempt
> you made to argue reasonably  was to claim that capitalists and corporatists
> fit the description I gave, an obvious error since both arise from free
> markets, the opposite of communism, socialism, fascism, etc.  .
>
> On 23 Oct 2010 at 3:14, Horse wrote:
>
>    Yes Platt - one of your specialities, the Platteral shift.
> You say the Fascists were socialists (or as you prefer, communists), I
> call you on it and you go into one about something or other that's
> completely irrelevant and try and avoid the question.
> When will you stop with the propaganda and bluster?
> The Nazis, whatever the nickname, were right-wing, not left-wing and all
> your blustering to avoid your own right-wing bias won't hide that fact.
> A couple of groups you conveniently left out below are the capitalists
> and corporatists which, as Steve pointed out via Mussolini, are the
> beneficiaries of the fascist legacy.
>
> Horse
>
>
> On 23/10/2010 02:04, plattholden at gmail.com wrote:
>> On 23 Oct 2010 at 1:02, Horse wrote:
>>
>>     For the last 10+ years Platt you've been telling me that socialism and
>> communism are the same thing.
>> So are you now trying to tell us that, in reality, the Nazi's were
>> communists?
>> You've been arguing for years that words don't mean what they mean by
>> doing exactly this.
>> Please explain how the Nazi's were communists.
>>
>> Socialists, communists, fascists, statists, liberals, progressives and the like
>> all seek similar means to the same end -- heaven on earth by government taking
>> responsibility for all aspects of life and imposing uniformity of thought and
>> action by force. Nazism, like communism et al, is a religion of the state. The
>> conflicts between Nazis and communists (and why some think they are different)
>> were battles for power, not ultimate goals.
>>
>> Platt

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