[MD] Step One
118
ununoctiums at gmail.com
Sat Oct 23 09:55:34 PDT 2010
Hi Marsha,
Thanks for your help in my search. I found the following web page on
decontexualization.
http://www.unm.edu/~devalenz/handouts/decontext2.html
Let me know what you think.
Cheers,
Mark
On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 8:20 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
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> Hi Mark,
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> Here is how I interpret, based on how they function, the Intellectual
> (SOM) Level:
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> The Intellectual Level, the fourth level, is comprised of static patterns
> of value such as theology, mathematics, science and philosophy. The way that
> these patterns function is as reified concepts and the rules for their
> rational analysis and manipulation. Reification decontextualizes.
> Intellectual patterns process from a subject/object conceptual framework
> creating false boundaries that give the illusion of independence as a
> “thing” or an “object of analysis.” The fourth level is a formalized
> subject/object level (SOM), where the paramount demand is for rational,
> objective knowledge, which is free from the taint of any subjectivity like
> emotions, inclinations, fears and compulsions in order to pursue, study and
> research in an unbiased and rational manner.
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> Thanks,
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> On Oct 23, 2010, at 3:40 AM, MarshaV wrote:
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> > Correct interrupted to be interpreted.
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> > On Oct 22, 2010, at 1:16 PM, 118 wrote:
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> >> On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 7:09 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> On Oct 22, 2010, at 1:44 AM, 118 wrote:
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> >>>> inferred that you were reasoning that Quality was analogous to not
> this,
> >>>> not that. Clearly I was mistaken. You were simply stating that
> Quality
> >>> can
> >>>> not be described with words. OK, I get it. How is it then that you
> >>> discuss
> >>>> it?
> >>>
> >>> Marsha:
> >>> The point is I don't talk about it. Using intellect to talk about
> Quality,
> >>> reifies it,
> >>> and it is not this, not that. I experience it as unpatterned, and
> >>> patterned flow,
> >>> after that nothing fits well. If you want to talk about Intellectual
> Level
> >>> patterns,
> >>> or Social Level patterns, or Biological Level patterns, or Inorganic
> Level
> >>> patterns, I think there is lots to consider and discuss.
> >>>
> >>
> >> The point is that while you do not talk about it, you certainly write
> about
> >> it, unless you are in the wrong forum. Your description of experience
> is
> >> shorthand at best There are at least four words there that need
> >> interpretation (and one of those is not "I", which can also be
> included).
> >> So, let's talk about the expression of quality in the subjects you
> >> reference above. You can consider it not really talking about Quality
> if
> >> that makes more sense to you.
> >>
> >> Mark
> >>
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> >
> > Hi Mark,
> >
> > The Dynamic aspect of Quality is unknowable, indivisible, undefinable.
> >
> > Static patterns of value are ever-changing, relative, impermanent
> > habit that is able to be conceptualized.
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> > The four levels are interpreted and defined with slight differences
> > dependent on an individuals past static pattern history.
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> > Marsha
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