[MD] Tea Bagging

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On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 9:53 AM, ARLO J BENSINGER JR <ajb102 at psu.edu> wrote:

> [Mark]
> Intelligent design does not require a God, but even that is despised by
> many
> scientists and teachers. It seems that the only thing that is appropriate
> is
> some nebulous randomness that progresses through chance.
>
> [Arlo]
> Well, as I said, there are many things not taught in schools, such as
> flat-earth theory. There are many who think 9/11 was an inside job, should
> we
> teach that in our schools too? Ultimately we have to draw a line, and that
> line
> is flexible and changes and that is how it should be. "Intelligent design"
> is
> simply a back-door approach to getting creationism taught as scientifically
> valid. You can do this when you've successfully diminished "science" to the
> status of "religion".
>

[Mark]
Yes it is in the line drawing.  The back door approach sounds ominous
indeed.  Do you think there is a conspiracy?

>
> [Mark]
> It is you that is elevating science to the status of religion.
>
> [Arlo]
> So we move from the failed attempts at elevating religion to science, to
> the
> failed attempts to reduce science to just another religion, to the attempt
> to
> place religion above science. Besides, I thought it was you who said
> science is
> another religion, which would make them equal "worldviews". Are you now
> saying
> religion is superior to science? Does that mean science is NOT a religion?
>

Perhaps.  My contention is that science has become a religion.  It requires
blind faith and acceptance by the masses.  What makes world views unequal?
 Perhaps I can better understand your question.  If you use a scientific
approach, then another can use a religious approach.  Which one is more
valid?

>
> [Mark in reply]
> Sorry if that hurt your feelings.
>
> [Arlo]
> And do you think the effects of this racism are confined to droll comments
> in a
> small bar?
>

Your sensitivity is indeed something to be looked up to (I mean that).  The
effects of racism are quite clear, and we do not want to return there.  This
is why I wish our current president would just shut up already.  Divide and
conquer without any sentiment for the country as a whole.  (sidebar) Do you
think that perhaps we made a mistake putting him in that position of power?

>
> [Mark]
> The farther you lift the pendulum, the farther it swings in the other
> direction.
>
> [Arlo]
> Well like I said, I think we need to readdress our strategies, where they
> have
> failed and where they have succeeded.
>

[Mark]
Yes, agreed.  Change takes time, and it doesn't help to forcefully extend it
in any direction, man is the measure of all things, not some bureaucrat
sitting in a white building.

>
> [Mark]
> No, those which you hear and mimic in your posts..
>
> [Arlo]
> Such as?... I don't have cable, btw, so I don't watch any television. I
> listen
> to NPR's Wait Wait and Car Talk podcasts, I read Der Spiegel and the get
> some
> news from the BBC. I'll check CNN for the major headlines, to see if any
> planes
> crashed, or war broke out, or big events. But other than this I totally
> avoid
> "news". I don't listen to any talk-radio at all.
>

[Mark] OK, by the way, I love those brothers who help fix cars, try to
listen to them when I can.  I can think of a few other radio shows provided
on subscriber funded radios.  Here we have KCRW's morning becomes eclectic.
 They have a web site of KCRW.COM.  Don't know if you are familiar but it is
on weekdays from 9-12 pacific time if you like discovering new music.

>
> [Arlo previously]
> Why? If "PC" is such a great evil, why don't you call him to his face what
> you
> call him behind his back? Coward?
>
> [Mark in reply]
> Yes, sometimes I have to lean forward to get a job.
>
> [Arlo]
> So, to clarify, you think "PC" is a great evil because it "forces" you not
> to
> call a mentally-handicapped person a "retard" to their face.
>

[Mark]
Not at all.  There are uses of the PC rule that I do find evil however.

>
> Life is so frickin' cruel, Mark... How you suffer, I feel your pain.
>

[Mark]
That may just be your pain you are feeling.

Mark

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