[MD] Science - Delusions in Search of Theory

[Platt Holden]

On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 11:05 AM, Horse <horse at darkstar.uk.net> wrote:

>  Hi Platt and Arlo
>
> To be picky about this and given Platt's previous assertion that SOM didn't
> exist until Pirsig described it, the time-line should be something like:
>
> peyote-inspired revelation ->  critical thinking ->  MoQ ->  DQ/SQ
>
> or something very similar. Neither MoQ nor DQ existed until after the
> critical thinking stage!
>
> Horse



Hi Horse,

I see the time line differently:

peyote-breakdown of static intellectual patterns allowing DQ to break
through to reveal a new pattern -> thinking to name and latch new pattern ->
more responses to DQ -> more thinking and latching -> more responses to DQ,
etc., etc. -> MoQ (DQ/SQ).

Platt


 On 29/10/2010 15:19, plattholden at gmail.com wrote:

> On 28 Oct 2010 at 21:54, ARLO J BENSINGER JR wrote:
>>
>>
>> Interesting point, though, it was "critical thinking" that uncovered this
>> inherent paradoxical core. And it was "critical thinking" that developed
>> the
>> Metaphysics of Quality from its initial peyote-inspired revelation.
>>
>> [Platt]
>> What "developed" the MOQ was Dynamic Quality and Pirsig's response to it.
>> Otherwise, the MOQ would be just another dull metaphysics like other
>> intellectually guided ideologies. The missing ingredient from "critical
>> thinking" is its ignorance of the moral force of DQ. From such ignorance
>> the
>> flaws of critical thinking flow, resulting, as Angell and Demetis expose,
>> in a
>> process "infested with paradoxes.".
>>
>>
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