[MD] Science - Delusions in Search of Theory

[Horse]

  Hi Platt

If SOM didn't exist before Pirsig named it (as you assert is the case) 
then how could DQ or SQ exist before the MoQ?
The MoQ, DQ and SQ are introduced to the world in Lila which came out 
around 1990.
SQ and DQ are part and parcel of the MoQ which didn't exist at the time 
that Pirsig had his peyote experience - which was prior to him creating 
ZMM or Lila.
If neither DQ/SQ or MoQ existed at this time then critical thinking, not 
DQ or SQ, followed from the peyote experience and was part of the 
process which led to the creation of the MoQ and the DQ/SQ split.

Horse

On 29/10/2010 17:10, Platt Holden wrote:
> Hi Horse,
>
> I see the time line differently:
>
> peyote-breakdown of static intellectual patterns allowing DQ to break
> through to reveal a new pattern ->  thinking to name and latch new pattern ->
> more responses to DQ ->  more thinking and latching ->  more responses to DQ,
> etc., etc. ->  MoQ (DQ/SQ).
>
> Platt
>

On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 11:05 AM, Horse<horse at darkstar.uk.net>  wrote:


> >    Hi Platt and Arlo
> >
> >  To be picky about this and given Platt's previous assertion that SOM didn't
> >  exist until Pirsig described it, the time-line should be something like:
> >
> >  peyote-inspired revelation ->   critical thinking ->   MoQ ->   DQ/SQ
> >
> >  or something very similar. Neither MoQ nor DQ existed until after the
> >  critical thinking stage!
> >
> >  Horse



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