[MD] From Psychology to Empiricism

[MarshaV]

On Sep 4, 2010, at 12:24 PM, Mary wrote:

> Hi Marsha,
> 
> [Mary said]
>>> The fourth level is a formalized subject/object level (SOM), where
>> the
>>> paramount demand is for rational objective knowledge, which denies
>> the
>>> existence of Quality.
>> 
> 
> [Marsha replied]
>> Quality being value?  Quality being experience?  Quality as Emptiness?
>> I
>> cannot agree with your "which denies the existence of Quality."   Mr.
>> Pirsig,
>> himself, has used intellect to explain the Quality.  My understanding
>> of Quality is as unpatterned experience/patterned experience; it is not
>> the
>> descriptions or discussions of it.  But maybe if you would elaborate, I
>> might
>> have more to consider.
> 
> 
> As in, Quality does not exist, Quality is just a subjective opinion, Quality
> is not an inherent property of a thing, or Quality is not real.  Also as in,
> Quality is trivial, fluff, not to be taken seriously, cannot be properly
> measured, quantified, objectively observed, or used in the metrics to rate
> you in your annual job performance review.  In other words, Quality is
> *just* subjective.
> 
> Given that, how does it compare with what you said?


Yes, I can whole heartedly agree with you.   - Marsha   




> 
>> ...
>> The fourth level is a formalized
>>> subject/object level (SOM), where the paramount demand is for 
>>> rational, objective knowledge, which is free from the taint of any
> subjectivity.
> 
> I think we are saying the same thing?
> 
> Best,
> Mary
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