[MD] Meyer-Briggs and Jung

[MarshaV]

John,

I think Krimel is a superstar and I'd make you home-made cookies 
any day.


Marsha
 
 



On Sep 5, 2010, at 1:29 AM, John Carl wrote:

> capricorn dave,
> 
> 
> My old friend Steve really loved that meyers briggs thing.  He is an
> engineer and has an engineer's soul.  Loved to be able to see the fix and
> how to apply it.
> 
> Everything's fixable, right?  I took it once and learned things about myself
> that I already knew.  I recommend introspection before quantified social
> criteria, any day of the week.  Just good ol' 'know thyself"
> 
> There's that  Hannibal Lecter quote from the book, I don't remember if it
> was in the movie _"the last man who tried to quantify me, I had his liver
> with fava beans."
> 
> or something to the effect.  I sympathize with the sentiment.
> 
> 
> As I understand Jung, the whole point of identifying your personality is to
>> find out what aspects of the self are relatively undeveloped. Sadly, the
>> Meyer-Briggs test is usually used to pigeonhole you at work. And most people
>> treat it like astrology, as if it supplied some magical insight into your
>> essence. They hang their hats on it as if it were a fixed point. This stuff
>> would make Jung spin in his grave.
>> 
>> The point of using getting your "score" to is not to gloat about your
>> strengths but to identify your weaknesses, to discover what areas need work
>> and attention. Usually, this will be the very opposite of your dominant
>> personality. This will be your shadow. And that's what you will tend to
>> dislike in others, what you will tend to project upon others because that's
>> you don't like to see it in yourself. That's why I hated Forest Gump.
>> 
> 
> Now see, I really liked Forest Gump.  But then, I had  a lot of "southern
> mouther" background and could relate to things other cultures might not
> get.
> 
> However I also get an oogey feeling whenever anybody thinks they got me
> pegged in some regularized fashion.  I understand there is a lot of
> standardization lately, with humans being socialized and acculturated to
> industrial rhythms using scientific methodology with bells and training and
> all.  I've undergone my fair share, but feel sorta insulted to be "lumped
> in" with everyone else.    Like everyone,  I just wanna be recognized as an
> individual.
> 
> 
> 
>> Not to get too personal, but judging by the form and content of your posts,
>> I'd say Krimel needs to develop his romantic side and Marsha needs to
>> develop her intellectual side. In both cases these undeveloped shadows have
>> become demonized little monsters with tangible negative effects.
>> 
> 
> Well, as far as that goes, I'd be all "physician heal thyself" and "remove
> the log outta yer own eye" about you giving advice on projecting and
> "undeveloped shadows" to others.  And besides that, I disagree completely.
> I think Marsha tries too hard sometimes to intellectualize with the boys,
> misconstruing the boys,  and Krimel... well I think Krimel's a damn fine
> writer and thinker.  I think he's got the rhetorical flourish, the poetic
> point and the romantic appeal down to near-perfection.   I think he needs to
> get a little deeper into his assumptions.  I think he needs more intellect,
> not less.
> 
> 
> 
>> Not that I'm an Analytic Psychologist or anything. But I am a Capricorn.
>> 
>> 
> 
> I hear ya.  I'm a libra myself.  We like to look at the other side of the
> argument :-)
> 
>  This year my birthday falls on 10/10/10.  Whaddya gettin' me dave?
> 
> 
> John
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