[MD] Meyer-Briggs and Jung

[MarshaV]

Of course, John, I could just as easily said I think you are a 
superstar and would happily make home-made cookies for
Krimel any day.  




On Sep 5, 2010, at 3:33 AM, MarshaV wrote:

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> John,
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> I think Krimel is a superstar and I'd make you home-made cookies 
> any day.
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> Marsha
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> On Sep 5, 2010, at 1:29 AM, John Carl wrote:
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>> capricorn dave,
>> 
>> 
>> My old friend Steve really loved that meyers briggs thing.  He is an
>> engineer and has an engineer's soul.  Loved to be able to see the fix and
>> how to apply it.
>> 
>> Everything's fixable, right?  I took it once and learned things about myself
>> that I already knew.  I recommend introspection before quantified social
>> criteria, any day of the week.  Just good ol' 'know thyself"
>> 
>> There's that  Hannibal Lecter quote from the book, I don't remember if it
>> was in the movie _"the last man who tried to quantify me, I had his liver
>> with fava beans."
>> 
>> or something to the effect.  I sympathize with the sentiment.
>> 
>> 
>> As I understand Jung, the whole point of identifying your personality is to
>>> find out what aspects of the self are relatively undeveloped. Sadly, the
>>> Meyer-Briggs test is usually used to pigeonhole you at work. And most people
>>> treat it like astrology, as if it supplied some magical insight into your
>>> essence. They hang their hats on it as if it were a fixed point. This stuff
>>> would make Jung spin in his grave.
>>> 
>>> The point of using getting your "score" to is not to gloat about your
>>> strengths but to identify your weaknesses, to discover what areas need work
>>> and attention. Usually, this will be the very opposite of your dominant
>>> personality. This will be your shadow. And that's what you will tend to
>>> dislike in others, what you will tend to project upon others because that's
>>> you don't like to see it in yourself. That's why I hated Forest Gump.
>>> 
>> 
>> Now see, I really liked Forest Gump.  But then, I had  a lot of "southern
>> mouther" background and could relate to things other cultures might not
>> get.
>> 
>> However I also get an oogey feeling whenever anybody thinks they got me
>> pegged in some regularized fashion.  I understand there is a lot of
>> standardization lately, with humans being socialized and acculturated to
>> industrial rhythms using scientific methodology with bells and training and
>> all.  I've undergone my fair share, but feel sorta insulted to be "lumped
>> in" with everyone else.    Like everyone,  I just wanna be recognized as an
>> individual.
>> 
>> 
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>>> Not to get too personal, but judging by the form and content of your posts,
>>> I'd say Krimel needs to develop his romantic side and Marsha needs to
>>> develop her intellectual side. In both cases these undeveloped shadows have
>>> become demonized little monsters with tangible negative effects.
>>> 
>> 
>> Well, as far as that goes, I'd be all "physician heal thyself" and "remove
>> the log outta yer own eye" about you giving advice on projecting and
>> "undeveloped shadows" to others.  And besides that, I disagree completely.
>> I think Marsha tries too hard sometimes to intellectualize with the boys,
>> misconstruing the boys,  and Krimel... well I think Krimel's a damn fine
>> writer and thinker.  I think he's got the rhetorical flourish, the poetic
>> point and the romantic appeal down to near-perfection.   I think he needs to
>> get a little deeper into his assumptions.  I think he needs more intellect,
>> not less.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Not that I'm an Analytic Psychologist or anything. But I am a Capricorn.
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> I hear ya.  I'm a libra myself.  We like to look at the other side of the
>> argument :-)
>> 
>> This year my birthday falls on 10/10/10.  Whaddya gettin' me dave?
>> 
>> 
>> John
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