[MD] Reifying carrots

[MarshaV]

On Sep 11, 2010, at 4:06 PM, Andre Broersen wrote:

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> Marsha to Dave:
> 
> If you listened to the videos on reification, you know that all of us who
> interpret the MoQ, the Intellectual Level or any level, are participating 
> in the subject/object thinking that is the result of reification.
> 
> Andre:
> This is YOUR interpretation on the 'all of us' interpretation of the MOQ
> Marsha. You,who have and continuously are, detesting this kind of
> projection (on 'us') should be ashamed of yourself!

Marsha:
Ignore me; that is your choice.   


> Marsha:
> That is my point.  Within the Intellectual Level there is a concerted
> effort to be free from the taint of any subjectivity.
> 
> Andre:
> How many times do 'we' have to tell you that Bodvar's fucking SOL
> positing is illogical!!!  In the MOQ there is no subjectivity!

Marsha:
I have no intentions of reacting to your drama, psychological bullying or your four-letter words.


> The 'concerted effort' is entirely yours. Do all of us a favour and re-read
> ZMM, LILA, all of Pirsig's  stuff, on top of that read some good (!) 
> Buddhist interpretations  and also some ZEN stuff by DaininKatagiri.

Marsha:
I've read many excellent Buddhist books on Emptiness, and many on Buddhism and science.  They've complimented my understanding of Quality.  I've just ordered a new-used book which was the source for:

"How do we deal with the complexity of experience? Well, we 'seek and find, or project, a simplifying pattern to approximate every complex field ... by lumping (ignoring some distinctions as negligible) and by splitting (ignoring some relations as negligible). Both ... create discreet entities useful for manipulating, predicting and controlling ... [but] may impose ad hoc boundaries on what are actually densely interconnected systems and then grant autonomous existence to the segments' (p. 108). Even the contents of our own consciousness have to be dealt with in this way, resulting in our array of fragmented self-concepts, and we just put up with the anomalies that arise. Buddhism, he explains, agrees that discovering entities is conventionally indispensable, but attachment and aggression arise through reifying them, which violates the principle that all things are interdependent, and all entities are conditional approximations."   


This little paragraph is a perfect little acorn...    




Marsha 
 

 

 
 
 
 
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