[MD] Reifying carrots

[david buchanan]

Marsha to Dave:
If you listened to the videos on reification, you know that all of us who interpret the MoQ, the Intellectual Level or any level, are participating in the subject/object thinking that is the result of reification.




dmb says:

If all of us who interpret the MOQ, the intellectual level or any level are participating in reification-caused SOM thinking, then so is the guy in the video and so are you. So even if you make an intellectual case against the mistake of reification, the case itself is inevitably a reification. It doesn't matter what anybody does. If ideas are used, even if those ideas are used to criticize and condemn reification and SOM, they're still reifications because that's just what ideas are. So there is no escape and any idea that ever was or could be is inherently false and fundamentally wrong.

A person would have to be insane to construe that position as anti-intellectual. And if such a crazy nut suggested such a thing, it would be a personal attack on Marsha. So it would be wrong to say she pushed the idea so far that it became absurd and illogical and intellectually paralyzing.

Reification is an idea, of course. The idea is supposed to be useful and helpful. The idea is suppose to help you avoid a fallacious kind of literalism, not put you in a mental straightjacket. 

It's an overblown and mixed up idea with very bad consequences. And yet Marsha clings to it like a lifeboat in a stormy sea.

I just don't get that.