[MD] Where I'm at [Administrator Message]

MarshaV valkyr at att.net
Mon Sep 13 08:40:22 PDT 2010 


I believe the issue was offliist emails.   - m 
 
 


On Sep 13, 2010, at 11:39 AM, Ian wrote:

> And Marsha you just aimed a "trashy little insult" at dmb. You got a personal problem, take it offline, to the moderator ... Or a confidant.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 13 Sep 2010, at 17:00, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Horse,
>> 
>> Having been on the receiving end of one of dmb's trashy little
>> posts full of insults, I was a bit sensitive to the tactic.  But I get
>> your message loud and clear.  It won't happen again on my
>> part.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Marsha
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 13, 2010, at 10:42 AM, Horse wrote:
>> 
>>> [Message from MD Administrator]
>>> 
>>> I agree completely with Adrie here.
>>> Emails that are sent off-list should remain off-list.
>>> If they are to be posted to the list then ALL participants should agree to their being published on MD AND they should run it past me first.
>>> If there is some particular reason that you feel something should be be brought from the private to the public domain (threats or whatever) then please contact me with your concerns.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Horse
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 13/09/2010 14:32, MarshaV wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> It is fully my responsibility for posting publicly the 'Unlike Marsha's post,
>>>> this really is OFF LIST' post.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Marsha
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Sep 13, 2010, at 9:18 AM, ADRIE KINTZIGER wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Sorry to read all of this , Jc, i worked with my hands all my life , and i'm
>>>>> aware of how harsh life can become for some people.
>>>>> My life's expierience tells me that it al begins with only one loose end,
>>>>> they are added up, loose end above loose end.
>>>>> On a certaint moment in time, it will generate a cascade of events ,called a
>>>>> mid-life crisis.
>>>>> But it is not per-se a bad thing to talk about it but even in this optic you
>>>>> have to keep the balance.
>>>>> The big questions of life.....sooner or later everybody will meet them, one
>>>>> of my basic rules in life is simple as hell,
>>>>> "do not throw in a lot of show elements in life, it will backfire
>>>>> always",.And i don't mean to say that i'm the keeper of wisdom.
>>>>> 
>>>>> But to use some phrase of Pirsig, throwing sand in the bulls eyes won't
>>>>> work.
>>>>> You have to reformat yourself this very day man,and its sad to say, but you
>>>>> will have to carry some past backpacking in the future.
>>>>> The clausule's you are mentioning used by the banks , are about the same as
>>>>> here, THEY ARE NEGOTIATABLE,its mostly possible to reformulate the loan, and
>>>>> end up with a streched-out  downpayment-term. it is often done here.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The usage of the red tagging argument is also tried-out here, wont work,
>>>>> this counter argument doesn't settle the debts to the bank.
>>>>> They call it a solid as Titanic-argument here in Europe.Renegotiate the
>>>>> boundary's and properties of the loan man.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Septic tanks are unimportant until they overflow........needless to comment.
>>>>> Move on again on your own force to carry the the day man, i shit you not.
>>>>> And i strongly dissaprove the usage for unclear purposes of list-ommitted
>>>>> mails.
>>>>> Mails that are meant to be kept confidential, have no right of existence in
>>>>> the public domain.This is unnaceptable.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'v stayed away from the conflict DMB, Jc,i try to keep my options open as
>>>>> long as possible.try to settle the conflict Jc, without cheap
>>>>> use of relaying mails in the public domain.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Adrie
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2010/9/12 John Carl<ridgecoyote at gmail.com>
>>>>> 
>>>>>> A story Marsha?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sure.  I like Dave and the Ronettes, just fine, but I'll tell you a story
>>>>>> about Limbo.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Limbo is a place.  As a place, the best description I have for it is "not
>>>>>> this, not that".  I'm not real familiar with Catholic theology, but as I
>>>>>> understand it,  Limbo  describes where pagans .  and unchristened babies go
>>>>>> after they die.  Sounds like my kind of people, actually.   I think good
>>>>>> Catholics are supposed to pray their loved ones out of limbo and into
>>>>>> heaven.  But I always wondered why.  Limbo sounds like the middle way to
>>>>>> me.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> When I say I'm living in Limbo, I mean my property, my home of 18 years, my
>>>>>> old miner's cabin which dangles over the diggins behind the house, and
>>>>>> fronts onto HWY 49.  If I stand in my front yard I can hear Harleys and
>>>>>> Semi
>>>>>> Trucks going by.  If I stand in the back I'm bordering on BLM land,
>>>>>> thousands of acres of it, below the level of an 80 foot cliff that shunts
>>>>>> sounds over my head and leaves me in peace.  I live on the knife edge of
>>>>>> ambiguity.  This can be maddening, or frustrating or quite liberating,
>>>>>> depending on how you wanna look at it.  A couple of events have conspired
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> bring the knife edge of ambiguity to a razor sharp hone.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> First, on Sept. 2nd, Lu was issued a ticket by Nevada County to appear in
>>>>>> court on criminal charges.  These charges concern the condition of our
>>>>>> property and septic disposal.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> At the same time, JP Morgan Chase has somehow "lost" our modification
>>>>>> documents, which they say gives them the power to renegotiate our mortgage
>>>>>> modification.  I hear stories all the time about such antics.  How the
>>>>>> government gives money to banks to make up their losses and foolishness.
>>>>>> How the banks take the money, and keep the property, in the hopes of
>>>>>> milking
>>>>>> more money out of these "financial instruments".  Good luck with that.
>>>>>> Sooner or later, something real needs to happen.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yesterday a shelf, burdened with books fell down and I had to pick up the
>>>>>> books.  I found one I didn't even know I had, it was from so long ago - a
>>>>>> thin brown book of poetry by Gary Snyder -
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> "Some critic tried to put me down--
>>>>>> 'your poems lack the Basic Truth of Tao'
>>>>>> And I recall the old-timers
>>>>>> Who were poor and didn't care.
>>>>>> I have to laugh at him,
>>>>>> He misses the point entirely,
>>>>>> Men like that
>>>>>> Ought to stick to making money."
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Between the bank and the county, who both stick my home in Limbo, I find
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> perfect stand.  To the county I say, "Hey, it's not even certain that it's
>>>>>> my property.  Go find JP Morgan/Chase and ask him to cut the grass, get rid
>>>>>> of the unregistered vehicles and ancient school bus moldering in apple
>>>>>> orchard."  To JP Morgan Chase I say, "hey, why should I sign your
>>>>>> modification agreement when the property isn't even livable?  The county
>>>>>> has
>>>>>> red-tagged it and here is the supporting documentation to prove what I
>>>>>> say".  All threats cancel each other out and just thrusts me deeper into
>>>>>> limbo.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Pray for me, then.  Not to leave limbo for heaven, but to turn Limbo into
>>>>>> heaven, without interference from demons.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> John
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