[MD] Where I'm at [Administrator Message]
Ian
ian.glendinning at gmail.com
Mon Sep 13 08:39:04 PDT 2010
And Marsha you just aimed a "trashy little insult" at dmb. You got a
personal problem, take it offline, to the moderator ... Or a confidant.
Sent from my iPhone
On 13 Sep 2010, at 17:00, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>
> Horse,
>
> Having been on the receiving end of one of dmb's trashy little
> posts full of insults, I was a bit sensitive to the tactic. But I get
> your message loud and clear. It won't happen again on my
> part.
>
>
>
> Marsha
>
>
>
>
> On Sep 13, 2010, at 10:42 AM, Horse wrote:
>
>> [Message from MD Administrator]
>>
>> I agree completely with Adrie here.
>> Emails that are sent off-list should remain off-list.
>> If they are to be posted to the list then ALL participants should
>> agree to their being published on MD AND they should run it past me
>> first.
>> If there is some particular reason that you feel something should
>> be be brought from the private to the public domain (threats or
>> whatever) then please contact me with your concerns.
>>
>>
>> Horse
>>
>>
>>
>> On 13/09/2010 14:32, MarshaV wrote:
>>>
>>> It is fully my responsibility for posting publicly the 'Unlike
>>> Marsha's post,
>>> this really is OFF LIST' post.
>>>
>>>
>>> Marsha
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sep 13, 2010, at 9:18 AM, ADRIE KINTZIGER wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sorry to read all of this , Jc, i worked with my hands all my
>>>> life , and i'm
>>>> aware of how harsh life can become for some people.
>>>> My life's expierience tells me that it al begins with only one
>>>> loose end,
>>>> they are added up, loose end above loose end.
>>>> On a certaint moment in time, it will generate a cascade of
>>>> events ,called a
>>>> mid-life crisis.
>>>> But it is not per-se a bad thing to talk about it but even in
>>>> this optic you
>>>> have to keep the balance.
>>>> The big questions of life.....sooner or later everybody will meet
>>>> them, one
>>>> of my basic rules in life is simple as hell,
>>>> "do not throw in a lot of show elements in life, it will backfire
>>>> always",.And i don't mean to say that i'm the keeper of wisdom.
>>>>
>>>> But to use some phrase of Pirsig, throwing sand in the bulls eyes
>>>> won't
>>>> work.
>>>> You have to reformat yourself this very day man,and its sad to
>>>> say, but you
>>>> will have to carry some past backpacking in the future.
>>>> The clausule's you are mentioning used by the banks , are about
>>>> the same as
>>>> here, THEY ARE NEGOTIATABLE,its mostly possible to reformulate
>>>> the loan, and
>>>> end up with a streched-out downpayment-term. it is often done
>>>> here.
>>>>
>>>> The usage of the red tagging argument is also tried-out here,
>>>> wont work,
>>>> this counter argument doesn't settle the debts to the bank.
>>>> They call it a solid as Titanic-argument here in
>>>> Europe.Renegotiate the
>>>> boundary's and properties of the loan man.
>>>>
>>>> Septic tanks are unimportant until they overflow........needless
>>>> to comment.
>>>> Move on again on your own force to carry the the day man, i shit
>>>> you not.
>>>> And i strongly dissaprove the usage for unclear purposes of list-
>>>> ommitted
>>>> mails.
>>>> Mails that are meant to be kept confidential, have no right of
>>>> existence in
>>>> the public domain.This is unnaceptable.
>>>>
>>>> I'v stayed away from the conflict DMB, Jc,i try to keep my
>>>> options open as
>>>> long as possible.try to settle the conflict Jc, without cheap
>>>> use of relaying mails in the public domain.
>>>>
>>>> Adrie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2010/9/12 John Carl<ridgecoyote at gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>>> A story Marsha?
>>>>>
>>>>> Sure. I like Dave and the Ronettes, just fine, but I'll tell
>>>>> you a story
>>>>> about Limbo.
>>>>>
>>>>> Limbo is a place. As a place, the best description I have for
>>>>> it is "not
>>>>> this, not that". I'm not real familiar with Catholic theology,
>>>>> but as I
>>>>> understand it, Limbo describes where pagans . and
>>>>> unchristened babies go
>>>>> after they die. Sounds like my kind of people, actually. I
>>>>> think good
>>>>> Catholics are supposed to pray their loved ones out of limbo and
>>>>> into
>>>>> heaven. But I always wondered why. Limbo sounds like the
>>>>> middle way to
>>>>> me.
>>>>>
>>>>> When I say I'm living in Limbo, I mean my property, my home of
>>>>> 18 years, my
>>>>> old miner's cabin which dangles over the diggins behind the
>>>>> house, and
>>>>> fronts onto HWY 49. If I stand in my front yard I can hear
>>>>> Harleys and
>>>>> Semi
>>>>> Trucks going by. If I stand in the back I'm bordering on BLM
>>>>> land,
>>>>> thousands of acres of it, below the level of an 80 foot cliff
>>>>> that shunts
>>>>> sounds over my head and leaves me in peace. I live on the knife
>>>>> edge of
>>>>> ambiguity. This can be maddening, or frustrating or quite
>>>>> liberating,
>>>>> depending on how you wanna look at it. A couple of events have
>>>>> conspired
>>>>> to
>>>>> bring the knife edge of ambiguity to a razor sharp hone.
>>>>>
>>>>> First, on Sept. 2nd, Lu was issued a ticket by Nevada County to
>>>>> appear in
>>>>> court on criminal charges. These charges concern the condition
>>>>> of our
>>>>> property and septic disposal.
>>>>>
>>>>> At the same time, JP Morgan Chase has somehow "lost" our
>>>>> modification
>>>>> documents, which they say gives them the power to renegotiate
>>>>> our mortgage
>>>>> modification. I hear stories all the time about such antics.
>>>>> How the
>>>>> government gives money to banks to make up their losses and
>>>>> foolishness.
>>>>> How the banks take the money, and keep the property, in the
>>>>> hopes of
>>>>> milking
>>>>> more money out of these "financial instruments". Good luck with
>>>>> that.
>>>>> Sooner or later, something real needs to happen.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yesterday a shelf, burdened with books fell down and I had to
>>>>> pick up the
>>>>> books. I found one I didn't even know I had, it was from so
>>>>> long ago - a
>>>>> thin brown book of poetry by Gary Snyder -
>>>>>
>>>>> "Some critic tried to put me down--
>>>>> 'your poems lack the Basic Truth of Tao'
>>>>> And I recall the old-timers
>>>>> Who were poor and didn't care.
>>>>> I have to laugh at him,
>>>>> He misses the point entirely,
>>>>> Men like that
>>>>> Ought to stick to making money."
>>>>>
>>>>> Between the bank and the county, who both stick my home in
>>>>> Limbo, I find
>>>>> the
>>>>> perfect stand. To the county I say, "Hey, it's not even certain
>>>>> that it's
>>>>> my property. Go find JP Morgan/Chase and ask him to cut the
>>>>> grass, get rid
>>>>> of the unregistered vehicles and ancient school bus moldering in
>>>>> apple
>>>>> orchard." To JP Morgan Chase I say, "hey, why should I sign your
>>>>> modification agreement when the property isn't even livable?
>>>>> The county
>>>>> has
>>>>> red-tagged it and here is the supporting documentation to prove
>>>>> what I
>>>>> say". All threats cancel each other out and just thrusts me
>>>>> deeper into
>>>>> limbo.
>>>>>
>>>>> Pray for me, then. Not to leave limbo for heaven, but to turn
>>>>> Limbo into
>>>>> heaven, without interference from demons.
>>>>>
>>>>> John
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