[MD] How far from the text do you go?

[ADRIE KINTZIGER]

Thx for these impressions, Dan, how nicely written, ---

He is all around us , the Giant , in every leaf, every drop of water ,the
rocks,the air , The Giant needs to be confronted with us
because the confrontation is with ourselves and all molecules from the
bigger frame, the framework, the patterns of value.
The confrontation is the expierience to accept to be part of the patterns.
How nicely writte, detrimental patterns,..."detritus" i like the latin
source, everything before became detritus after the patterns and the value
was recognised, this is the key to move on from here,.....it makes one think
about the old man and the sea, not Hemingways
but Pirsig as the old man and the sea, on the Arete- recognising the
patterns of value, formulating them from the boatimpressions.

Thx for this impressions Dan, don't be shy to appear if you feel like.
breathe the Giant today..and every moment.
Adrie

2010/9/17 Dan Glover <daneglover at gmail.com>

> Hello everyone
>
> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 2:59 PM, John Carl <ridgecoyote at gmail.com> wrote:
> > dmb,
> >
> > " That's what all those tiny bodies were doing up in there suspended so
> many
> > hundreds of feet up in the sky. Participating in the Giant." (Lila, page
> > 219)
> >
> >
> > what choice do they have?  I mean, you have to have all the wealth and
> > success that the giant conveys or you're nothing.
> >
> > It's either participate in the giant or be accounted poor white trash.
> >
> >
> > John  - sticking to the text
>
> Dan:
> In the MOQ, inorganic and biologcial patterns of value conform to
> objects. We can see them. We can put them under a microscope and
> examine them in great detail. Social and intellectual patterns of
> value conform to subjects. They are in the mind. We can't see them. We
> cannot put them under a microscope and examine them.
>
> To participate in the Giant, we "buy" into it by trading value for
> value. We might trade time for money. Or we might trade money for
> time. We call it recompense. Along the way, we each seem to develop
> "comfort" levels kept in place by those we associate with most. So we
> end up getting out of life what we expect to get. And, call it karma
> or evolutionary garbage or whatever, we often become attached to
> detrimental patterns that hold us back and keep us from achieving what
> we might otherwise.
>
> The Giant isn't "out there" controlling us. The Giant is "in here"
> controlling us. The Giant is all of us. But we can't see it or examine
> it in any way. We can't change the Giant by physically manipulating
> it. Turning off our tv won't work. Throwing away our newspaper won't
> work. We can only change it by changing our way of thinking.
>
> Thanks for reading,
>
> Dan
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