[MD] I am that

[MarshaV]

Hi Platt,

No doubt about it, I like human life!  And I do appreciate individual 
experiences, and I agree with you human experiences are of a 
unique and special kind.  Without human consciousness, no gravity, 
no quantum mechanics, no Giant, no ZMM &LILA, no Velazquez 
paintings, no Arlo, well, the missing patterns would be endless.  


Marsha   




On Sep 20, 2010, at 9:46 AM, plattholden at gmail.com wrote:

> Hi Marsha,
> 
> You and all human individuals are a separate category from animals, able to 
> respond to the creative force of DQ. Otherwise, we are helpless victims of the 
> collective Giant who "doesn't mind losing a few bodies to protect his greater 
> interests." (Lila, 17)  When we reject the concept of the sacredness of human 
> life, genocide becomes acceptable.
> 
> Platt    
> 
> 
> On 20 Sep 2010 at 3:23, MarshaV wrote:
> 
> 
> On Sep 19, 2010, at 3:59 PM, plattholden at gmail.com wrote:
> 
>> On 19 Sep 2010 at 13:15, MarshaV wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 19, 2010, at 12:40 PM, ARLO J BENSINGER JR wrote:
>> 
>>> [Marsha to Platt]
>>> Certainly dynamic individuals like Mr. Pirsig are a separate category.  I
>>> agree, I agree, I agree.
>>> 
>>> [Arlo]
>>> Human individuals are a composition of the four levels of value patterns. 
> They
>>> are not a "separate category", whatever that means. 
>> 
>> Marsha:
>> I was speaking using conventional language.   I didn't mean to confuse you.   
>> 
>> Platt
>> Human individuals are composites of the four levels of  static value patterns 
>> plus ability to respond to DQ. The static intellectual level doesn't have that 
>> ability. That's why individuals are a separate category. They are the shakers 
>> and movers of the evolution of life.   
> 
> 
> Marsha:
> I seem to be a fictitious self and an experiencing individual.  The fictitious 
> self 
> is my memory, the composite of the four levels of static patterns of value, and 
> the  
> experiencing individual is my responding to DQ.  I can endlessly deny my 
> fictitious self: not this, not that, but I cannot seem to deny that I am not 
> other than 
> this and that.  A separate category?  Sure, that's easy:  nuts...   
> 
> imho.  
> 
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