[MD] freewill

[MarshaV]

Jan-Anders,

Have you ever considered studying the works of D. T. Suzuki?  He has something good to say about Zen Buddhism.  It helps overcome the need for conciseness.   

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D.T._Suzuki

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen


Best,

Marsha




On Apr 12, 2011, at 4:36 AM, Jan-Anders wrote:

> Dear Marsha
> 
> I am answering, therefore I am. I am for real.
> 
> I am free to use my free will and choose something *between* adding, deformulating or revaluating the message. Real Dynamic Quality work which makes it either better or worse, half depending on the quality of the reader. It is a process, an event. You're part of the event while reading this. You're as important as I am in this. I just can't do it without your assistance.
> 
> Metaphysics is mirroring the event to understand HOW the event is working and to be able to do a better job.
> 
> This forums intention is to discuss and understand MOQ in that perspective.
> 
> Horse is doing the practical mirroring of the MOQ. Dmb is very clear and concise too.
> 
> I dont think there is much need for another mirroring activity or the "Metaphysics of the Metaphysics" here but as I can see that many of your submissions is often about "mirroring the mirror/questioning the question" I thought you might be interested in reading the works of Boris Vian. He's quite fun sometimes.
> 
> Wish I was the best..
> 
> Jan-Anders
> 
> moq_discuss-request at lists.moqtalk.org skrev 2011-04-12 09.52:
>> Jan,
>> 
>> Words on a page, or spoken may be very important and wise, but more so
>> if accompanied by insight.  -  But you haven't said anything and left the entire
>> suggestion for interpretation and projection.
>> 
>> 
>> Marsha
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 12, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Jan-Anders wrote:
>> 
>>> >  Hi Marsha
>>> >  >  Upon your last statement below.
>>> >  >  J-A
>>> >  
>>>> >>  Message: 2
>>>> >>  Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 13:57:37 -0400
>>>> >>  From: MarshaV<valkyr at att.net>
>>>> >>  To:moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
>>>> >>  Subject: Re: [MD] freewill
>>>> >>  Message-ID:<92012904-93DF-4979-ACDA-C5BB2393F9D6 at att.net>
>>>> >>  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>>> >>  >>  >>  Hi Jan-Anders,
>>>> >>  >>  On what basis do you ask the question?
>>>> >>  >>  >>  Marsha
>>>> >>  >>  >>  >>  On Apr 11, 2011, at 1:39 PM, Jan-Anders wrote:
>>>> >>  
>>>>>> >>>  >    Hi Marsha
>>>>>> >>>  >    >   Have you ever considered studying Boris Vian? He founded something he called Pataphysics which is related to Metaphysics as Metaphysics is related to Physics.
>>>>>> >>>  >    >   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Vian
>>>>>> >>>  >    >   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%27Pataphysics
>>>>>> >>>  >    >   Best
>>>>>> >>>  >    >   Jan-Anders
>>>>>> >>>  >    >   moq_discuss-request at lists.moqtalk.org   skrev 2011-04-11 19.16:
>>>>>>>> >>>>  >>    Message: 2
>>>>>>>> >>>>  >>    Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 09:32:16 -0400
>>>>>>>> >>>>  >>    From: MarshaV<valkyr at att.net>
>>>>>>>> >>>>  >>    To:moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
>>>>>>>> >>>>  >>    Subject: Re: [MD] freewill
>>>>>>>> >>>>  >>    Message-ID:<29C7EB62-29B7-4F23-A11C-064C85570BA4 at att.net>
>>>>>>>> >>>>  >>    Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>>>>>>> >>>>  >>    >>   >>   On Apr 11, 2011, at 8:53 AM, Arlo Bensinger wrote:
>>>>>>>> >>>>  >>  
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>  >>>    >     [Marsha]
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>  >>>    >     Me, you and Pirsig are a fiction.
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>  >>>    >     >    [Arlo]
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>  >>>    >     Okay. Is The MOQ a fiction as well? Should we take something more seriously if "The MOQ" says it, than if "Pirsig" says it?
>>>>>>>> >>>>  >>    Marsha:
>>>>>>>> >>>>  >>    The MoQ is an intellectual static pattern of value.  A very good one, a keeper.  The inherently existing self does collapse on examination.  While a collection of static patterns of value from all four levels, Mr. Pirsig is a very good collection, also a keeper.   Personally I'm a negative empiricist and a radical skeptic, I'd always have to investigate for myself no matter what's been said by whom, whether God, President, Mr. Pirsig or the Beatles.    So far, it has all ultimately come down to not this, not that.
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