[MD] Bitterness over Betterness

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Marsha:
I think the same approach can be taken towards freedom.  First, there's the 
ineffable, Ultimate freedom of following DQ.  I believe this is what Dan is 
pointing to when he presents RMP's quote "To the extent that one's behavior is 
controlled by static patterns of quality is without choice.  But to the extent 
that one follows Dynamic Quality, which is undefinable, one's behavior is 
free."  Second, there is the static, ego-based freedom that thinks itself 
chooses between this or that.  -  Personally, I think that an event has multiple 
interconnected causes and conditions which in turn have multiple interconnected 
causes and conditions, &etc., &etc., &etc.  It may be correct to think that an 
individual participates within the  'multiple causes and conditions', but to say 
WE CHOOSE is totally self-centered; it's illusion and not very useful.    



Ron:
well thats a well reasoned conclusion, but I think that the illusion "we choose"
 is more powerfull and better than
the illusion that we have no choice.
there are all sorts of things one can choose to change if one sets their mind to 
it
that they never knew were possible before.