[MD] Bitterness over Betterness
MarshaV
valkyr at att.net
Tue Apr 26 18:03:04 PDT 2011
On Apr 26, 2011, at 7:45 PM, X Acto wrote:
> Marsha:
> I think the same approach can be taken towards freedom. First, there's the
> ineffable, Ultimate freedom of following DQ. I believe this is what Dan is
> pointing to when he presents RMP's quote "To the extent that one's behavior is
> controlled by static patterns of quality is without choice. But to the extent
> that one follows Dynamic Quality, which is undefinable, one's behavior is
> free." Second, there is the static, ego-based freedom that thinks itself
> chooses between this or that. - Personally, I think that an event has multiple
> interconnected causes and conditions which in turn have multiple interconnected
> causes and conditions, &etc., &etc., &etc. It may be correct to think that an
> individual participates within the 'multiple causes and conditions', but to say
> WE CHOOSE is totally self-centered; it's illusion and not very useful.
>
>
>
> Ron:
> well thats a well reasoned conclusion, but I think that the illusion "we choose"
> is more powerfull and better than
> the illusion that we have no choice.
> there are all sorts of things one can choose to change if one sets their mind to
> it
> that they never knew were possible before.
Marsha:
This understanding might not appeal to a "self" wanting to be in control. Many
of the causes, conditions and interdependencies are not immediately available
to ones recognition.
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