[MD] Freewill

[MarshaV]

On Aug 3, 2011, at 7:53 AM, ARLO J BENSINGER JR wrote:

> [Ian]
> If you saw it as the whole world with nothing / no-one beyond the horizons,
> even then I suspect it would / could.
> 
> [Arlo]
> MRB's initial question was "would it occur to me on a desert island?", and the
> answer is "no". According to the MOQ, intellectual patterns of value do not
> spontaneously arise from the biological level. They emerge from the social
> level. 
> 
> "Mental patterns do not originate out of inorganic nature. They originate out
> of society, which originates out of biology which originates out of inorganic
> nature." (LILA)
> 
> In this case, MRB would have the range of agency opened up to him on the
> biological level, but he would not have access to social or intellectual
> patterns, in other words, no social or intellectual activity.
> 
> And if you are talking not about "occurring to", but something witnessed by
> some hidden observer, then this observer would see MRB exhibiting about the
> same range of "free will" as an unsocialized ape. (The ape would be seen
> "choosing" to eat a banana, and so would MRB, but neither would be able to
> "choose" any behavior endemic to the social or intellectual levels.)

Hi Arlo,

Don't you think this might be a problems with considering all 'thinking' to be 
intellectual, or intellectual patterns?  


Marsha 

 
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