[MD] Through a glass darkly

[ADRIE KINTZIGER]

add-on.
only a tought play of course, but what if i change natural selection with
Dynamical selection?. is nature dynamical?

2011/1/31 ADRIE KINTZIGER <parser666 at gmail.com>

> re.
> Quote , Dmb on Phaedrus
>
> "dmb says:
> It might interest you to know that the line "through a glass darkly" was
> delivered by Socrates in Plato's "Phaedrus".
> In ZAMM there is an analogy wherein reality as we know it conceptually is
> just a handful of sand taken from the surrounding landscape of awareness. As
> he explain it, there is no way we could ever notice more than a small part
> of that landscape.end.
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>
> Comment , Adrie.
> Altough much remains obscure, and will long remain obscure.......
> is (imho) a perfect analogy match for the" glass darkly.", in Phaedrus.
>
> see this.
> Darwin, in the introductionpart of the origin of species.(domestic and
> natural variation)
>
> *"Although much remains obscure, and will long remain obscure, I can
> entertain no doubt, after the most deliberate study and dispassionate
> judgement of which I am capable, that the view which most naturalists
> entertain, and which I formerly entertained -- namely, that each species has
> been independently created -- is erroneous. I am fully convinced that
> species are not immutable; but that those belonging to what are called the
> same genera are lineal descendants of some other and generally extinct
> species, in the same manner as the acknowledged varieties of any one species
> are the descendants of that species. Furthermore, I am convinced that
> Natural Selection has been the main but not exclusive means of modification.
> "*
>
>
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> comment , Adrie.
>
> in regard of the concluding endsentence, "Main but not exlusive means....."
>
> and DMB quoting Pirsig,"In ZAMM there is an analogy wherein reality as we
> know it conceptually is just a handful of sand taken from the surrounding
> landscape of awareness. As he explains it, there is no way we could ever
> notice more than a small part of that landscape"....
>
> furthermore, DMB quoting on James,..
>
> " I think this is parallel to James's analogy wherein buckets full of water
> are taken from the ongoing stream of experience. In both cases the idea is
> that our conceptualizations exist in relation to a much larger field of
> consciousness and we notice the part that we do because of our culture and
> personal history."
>
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>
> I think it is more than correct  David ,to see the parrallel's in the work
> of these
> visionairs.
> Darwin is one of my favo's.
> greetzz, Adrie
>
>
>
>
> 2011/1/31 david buchanan <dmbuchanan at hotmail.com>
>
>
>> Mary said:
>> ...I think Pirsig says mainly that there is a great deal more to reality
>> than we can define or differentiate.  Another way to put that might be to
>> say that we create our reality from our experiences.  We see through the
>> glass darkly and are unable to experience the entirety of all possible
>> realities.  DMB says we dip our ladle into the stream of Quality and what we
>> come back with we call reality.
>>
>> dmb says:
>> It might interest you to know that the line "through a glass darkly" was
>> delivered by Socrates in Plato's "Phaedrus".
>> In ZAMM there is an analogy wherein reality as we know it conceptually is
>> just a handful of sand taken from the surrounding landscape of awareness. As
>> he explain it, there is no way we could ever notice more than a small part
>> of that landscape. I think this is parallel to James's analogy wherein
>> buckets full of water are taken from the ongoing stream of experience. In
>> both cases the idea is that our conceptualizations exist in relation to a
>> much larger field of consciousness and we notice the part that we do because
>> of our culture and personal history.
>>
>>
>>
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