[MD] one for Arlo, as an aside

[John Carl]

Some interesting reading I came across, Arlo,  sorta along these lines, from
the web<http://books.google.com/books?id=8fcRAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA49&ots=Jfctju6CkL&dq=problem+of+christianity&output=text#c_top>
:

"For then each of two or more men may regard the same fact of past life as,
in the same sense, a part of his own personal life. Two men of the present
time may, for instance, have any number of ancestors in common. To say this
is not to ignore the pluralistic view of the selves, but only to make
mention of familiar facts of descent. But now if these men take great
interest in their ancestors, and have a genuine or legendary tradition
concerning the ancestors, each of the two men of the present time may regard
the lives, the deeds, the glory, and perhaps the spiritual powers or the
immortal lives of certain ancestors, now dwelling in the spirit-world, as a
part of his own self.

Thus, when the individual Maori, in New Zealand, in case he still follows
the old ways, speaks of the legendary canoes in which the ancestors of old
came over from the home land called Hawaiki to New Zealand, he says,
choosing the name of the canoe according to his own tribe and tradition, " I
came over in the canoe Tai-Nui." Now any two members of a tribe whose
legendary ancestors came over in Tai-Nui, possess, from their own point of
view, identically the same past, in just this respect. Each of the two men
in question has the same reason, good or bad, for extending himself into the
past, and for saying, "I came over in that canoe." Now the belief in this
identity of the past self of the ancestor of the canoe, belonging to each of
the two New Zealanders, does not in the least depend upon ignoring, or upon
minimizing, the present difference between these two selves. The present
consciousnesses do not in the least tend to interpenetrate. Neither of the
two New Zealanders in question need suppose that there is now any
compounding of consciousness. Each may keep aloof from the other. They may
be enemies. But each has a reason, and an obvious reason, for extending
himself into the ancestral past."

On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 12:35 PM, Arlo Bensinger <ajb102 at psu.edu> wrote:

> Hi Adrie,
>
> I'll look into this a little closer and get back to you.
>
> On the Bensinger side of my family, the farthest back I've gone is to
> Frederick Bensinger, who settled in the area I am from (Schuylkill County,
> Pennsylvania) before the Revolutionary war. We know his first son, Michael,
> was born in Schuylkill County in 1798. Frederick had emigrated from Germany
> (I believe), and was not born himself in America.
>
> Where we came from before that, or how the name changed before this, I
> don't know, but will look at this site.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Arlo
>
>
> At 03:16 PM 2/9/2011, you wrote:
>
>> benzingen in google earth, or
>>
>> http://www.surnamedb.com/Surname/Benzing
>>
>> I tracked my own german nameroots back to 1604 ;Kintziger/kuntziger, or
>> kintzinger/kuntzinger
>> because of the "er' suffix i was curious for yours.
>> and very surprisingly, if you use kintzig in google earth, it shows up to
>> be
>> very close to benzingen,you will see it
>> immediately.
>>
>> Kintzig, in Luxemburg , lorraine, was the root of my name, probably in the
>> dark middle ages they where covered by the german empire, both.
>>
>> Greetzz, adrie
>>
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