[MD] Changes in 2011

[John Carl]

Hey Magnus,

Well ever since gmail made changes in it's system, people keep getting
shuffled off to my spam box.  Mary recently, and now you too.

So... I guess that sorta helps with the "noise level", anyway.

Happy New Year to you.  Hope my noisemakers at midnight weren't too much
bother.  I always blow a conch shell but mostly what I hear around here
(Nevada County "here" - not MD "here") is gunfire.


John the adept skimmer




On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 8:32 AM, Ian Glendinning
<ian.glendinning at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi Magnus, Horse,
>
> Certainly a more actively moderated forum is needed for the "difficult
> stuff". A "noisy" MD list can be a good source of seeds (grains of
> sand), but it's a poor place to develop ideas or progress arguments
> (into pearls).
>
> (I've made suggestions on-list before and volunteered off-list to
> Horse to help anyway he needs.)
>
> Ian
>
> On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 4:17 PM, Magnus Berg <McMagnus at home.se> wrote:
> > Hi Horse
> >
> > One option could be to relaunch the moderated MoQ Focus list. I'd be
> > interested. Perhaps it doesn't even need to be moderated if we can't get
> a
> > decent list of moderators (and with decent, I mean quantity, not
> quality).
> >
> > The noise level on MD is a tad too much for me to muster for very long at
> a
> > time.
> >
> >        Magnus
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2011-01-03 19:58, Horse wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Ian
> >>
> >> Happy New Year to you too - and to all the rest of you.
> >>
> >> I'm not making the term Reification taboo any more than I have made the
> >> terms SOM or Intellect or Intellectual or similar terms taboo. They're
> >> just words.
> >> What I am doing though is killing the whole SOM as Intellect debate and
> >> any avenues that lead towards it. Marsha's Reification is, from my point
> >> of view, just another way of expressing that debate.
> >>
> >> Something else that I would like to see emerge in 2011 is a debate about
> >> Politics and the MoQ. This is something that really hasn't occurred here
> >> yet - I think the reasons are obvious - but maybe I will be able to
> >> facilitate this during the coming year.
> >> In case anyone is thinking of jumping in about here, could I please ask
> >> you to hold on for a while (that's a polite request) as I would like to
> >> make sure that the general level of debate is back to it's usual caustic
> >> levels first!
> >>
> >> One thing that I have been putting a lot of thought into recently is how
> >> to balance the right to speak freely with the right to be heard.
> >> It's a tricky one - how do you balance the interests of those that don't
> >> scream and shout the loudest with those that do?
> >> Who upholds the rights of those who wish to have moderate and reasonable
> >> debate?
> >>
> >> Hmmm!
> >>
> >> Horse
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 03/01/2011 09:34, Ian Glendinning wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi Horse,
> >>>
> >>> Glad to see MD is not a democracy, but as I've consistently said any
> >>> good democracy has good regulation too. You have my support.
> >>>
> >>> One observation on the edict itself. The term reification cannot
> >>> itself be made taboo (I hope, it has valid uses in our discussion - eg
> >>> misplaced concreteness of named objects), but in this context, as a
> >>> rhetorical cover for SOLAQI etc ... then the point is clear.
> >>>
> >>> Happy new year BTW,
> >>> Ian
> >>
> >
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