[MD] Changes in 2011

Thu Jan 6 12:57:49 PST 2011

Good evening , Dan,thx for  reflecting.

Dan:
In my time here, it seems to me there are those who are genuinely
interested in furthering Robert Pirsig's MOQ, not their own agenda.
Unfortunately, they are in the minority, not the majority. They need
their own space, or so it seems to me.

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Adrie, fast shorty.

I have the same problems , Dan,I have to study far side pragmatism,
all details of the works, all the archives, the postings, The work that was
proposed to examine by Pheadrus, James' works, as David recognised, he did
not suck it out of his thumb, the proposal is really there....but most of
all,!! the implications of this on the developments in pragmatism,
philosophykal science
and the fields of knowledge,- all at the same time, and not to forget ,with
some
fast runners like you and David, Matt, Horse, some others, in the running.

Have to work on these things in a language that is not in my fingers yet,
but its
improving, never using dictionary's or spellingcontrols enforces me run a
steaper curve than with them.

I hate to inform some others, Dan, but as an aside only of course, what i
can do here in a language that is not mine, is only 5 % of what i can do in
Dutch or Flemish, even with the other 95% to upcome,i will still have to
remain in the welcome shadow of the big tree's around here,and a do not
dislike this position,
i'm a reader of books, not an author, or shredder, i need the secrets of the
words, i need to have the paper thinghy.

There are so many things i still like to discuss with you, important things
, unspoken of.

allow me to give an example.

I'm still working on the Graphikal idealism projected by the author, in
LILA,
the Currier and Yves like scenery mentioned to be tought of, around the
Hudson.

I want to see it.
I have an example that is interesting.
Of course it is only a downloaded one.

But it depicts The Hudson on a Currier and Yves made idealised print
near Sandy hill or Hills, together with a sort of sawmill, driven by the
stream.

On google earth however, looking upon the Hudson above Staten Island but
still under the statue of liberty, i can only find sand hills, sand hills
hotels, sand hills junctions, etc

I do not find SanDY hills geograpically, to locate it , pin-point it ,to see
the angle and the exact location.
I'v like to know for sure =Sandy congruent with Sand hill for location?
Does it still exist physikally, or did it die in the urbanisation?

This keeps on eating me , Dan!, the reason is that i like to really purchase
some super mint quality Currier and Yves prints that are still availiable in
the US.

But , specifically, i like to surch for depicted locations that are
congruent with the locations passed by by the Arete----- Im a purist.

I'v installed a new fireplace, painted my livingroom, ditched all my
furniture,the house is empty now, i want to purchase this art to redecorate
my livingroom.

Some help from a clever native Mercan with a hart for art and the works,
would be very welcome,.....do you like to see the picture,to see if you'r
able to help me out with Sandy hills?,......I don't have acces to pirsigs
boat log.

Do i send it?
Adrie

2011/1/6 Dan Glover <daneglover at gmail.com>

> Hello everyone
>
> On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 9:01 AM, ADRIE KINTZIGER <parser666 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > re
> > Hi Dan, thx for your presence.
>
> Hi Adrie
>
> Thank you too!
>
> >Adrie:
> > Some time ago i'v launched the idea of providing Mr Buchanan with his own
> > thread, solely to work on invitation.
> >
> > Your idea is better, expanding the thread idea to a core or kernel of
> > invited and working on a invitation or grandfathered in-members.
> >
> > Ideal to develop the understanding of Pirsigs work, ideal to work with a
> > core on the core-value's.
> >
> > A good umbrella to avoid the noise, and avoid infinite regressing
> patterns.
>
> Dan:
> I agree. It (normally) isn't my wont to post as quickly as many here
> do. I tend to let an idea gestate a bit, write it out, and put it away
> for a few days. Then I pull it out again and examine it for value. But
> by that time, whatever discussion I am replying to has long since
> devolved. So most of the time, my post is consigned to my draft
> folder.
>
>
> Adrie:
> > i support it all the way.
> > It is not meant to isolate the other members or to place David on a
> > pedestal.
> > But to work with a working model.
> >
> > The other rulings...hmm, not sure.
> >
> > only an idea of course , to have this isolated Quality-Island, but if it
> is
> > also reversed to another thread,"everything allowed" for the others, they
> > will have their own environment as well, without any restrictions in
> > content, exchanging recipe's, youtubelinks,drivel,  vomit, sol,..yes
> having
> > their own individual respecting environment.
>
> Dan:
> In my time here, it seems to me there are those who are genuinely
> interested in furthering Robert Pirsig's MOQ, not their own agenda.
> Unfortunately, they are in the minority, not the majority. They need
> their own space, or so it seems to me.
>
> >Adrie:
> > Of course without the possibility to to steal away content or lines from
> the
> > core-thread or mother thread,or vice versa.
> >
> > two advantages, the core can move on to progress based philosophy, idea's
> > work from you or horse(I consider Horse extremely good)
> >
> > the other core can shit on forever in an endless loop.
> > Of course on a voluntary base.
> >
> > Its all for Horse to consider it.
> > It can work almost without moderation,with the moderator in the core, and
> no
> > need to be in the other.
>
> Dan:
> Well, as much as I dislike being moderated, it would serve to steer
> the discussion in the direction envisioned by the person who came up
> with the month's topic... the moderator. In the "open" forum, a person
> starts a thread but it is soon hijacked and veers off into oblivion.
> With a moderator actively working to keep that from occurring, perhaps
> some real progress might result.
>
> >
> >Adrie:
> > I support the basic idea, Dan , and thanks for presenting it.
> > Keep on the good work!
> >
>
> Thanks for the support, Adrie. It is always good to hear from you!
>
> Dan
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