[MD] chariotness

[MarshaV]

On Jan 10, 2011, at 8:37 PM, Carl Thames wrote:

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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "MarshaV" <valkyr at att.net>
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> Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 7:29 AM
> Subject: Re: [MD] chariotness
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>> Greetings Carl,
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>> The chariot simile is very widely referenced and I thought added a different perspective.   Metaphysics, to me, means simply the study of the nature of reality.  Within the MoQ reality is Quality(unpatterned/patterned).  RMP, himself, has said that "Since a metaphysics is essentially a kind of dialectical definition and since Quality is essentially outside definition, this means that a 'Metaphysics of Quality' is essentially a contradiction in terms, a logical absurdity." (LILA)   Don't know about you, but I have an absurd drive to discuss metaphysical issues.   I'm quite sure it must be a mental illness.
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>> Marsha
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> Naturally I waited until AFTER the post to actually look up the definition of metaphysics.  Sigh.  According to Merriam Webster, metaphysics is:
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> "a (1) : a division of philosophy that is concerned with the fundamental nature of reality and being and that includes ontology, cosmology, and often epistemology (2) : abstract philosophical studies : a study of what is outside objective experience"
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> According to this, there IS a metaphysics of quality, since it is outside objective experience.  Your experience and my experience of the same thing can, and usually is, totally different.  That doesn't mean that each isn't valid, though.   I also have an absurd drive to discuss just about anything philosophical, so here I am. <G> 
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Hi Carl,  

Here is a clearer presentation of the chariot analogy:  

http://au.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100111154536AAU6nwS&show=7   

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IMHO the MoQ is that it is epistemologically relative and ontologically  indeterminate.  



Marsha  


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