[MD] The Dynamics of Value

[Jan-Anders]

Hi Ham and John

About is-ness and nothingness. Picked this question out from a Magazine.

"What is the weight of the music in an iPod? As we know that there is 
some form of information downloaded into the iPod it must have some weight?"

My answer is: (in some way related to Pirsigs writing of instruction 
books for Fortran computers. Lila. ch. ?)

Computers have memory. When you load information into it it is not 
adding more mass or energy. The only thing that happens is that you 
Change the information from blank silence into sound. Instead of the 
zillion zero's in a row that is the factory presettings of the memory 
(silence or emptyness) you change the Pattern of the memory into a 
certain mix of 1's and 0's. The physical weight is unaltered but the 
pattern is altered. Value is independent from the downloaded pattern. 
The Value depends on the interaction between the iPod and the listener. 
It could be the complete works of Artie Schroeck. In that case silence 
would be of higher value?

I do not have an iPod. The Value of having an iPod is nothingness to me 
as I still have my stereo equipment and my record collection in good 
condition. Which is somethingness.

best

Jan-Anders

moq_discuss-request at lists.moqtalk.org wrote 2011-01-14 13.08:
> Ham:
>
>
>> >  There IS NO nothingness, which is why there is no otherness in Reality.
>> >  The conclusion we can draw from this is that Existence is an "illusion" or
>> >  (to borrow Hegel's word) "appearance".  Existence is a world of appearances
>> >  where the phenomena experienced reflect the 'IS-ness' of the Absolute Source
>> >  differentially.
>> >
> John:  I certainly agree about the lack of nothingness, but I'm not so sure
> about there being no otherness.  There sure SEEMS to be otherness in
> Reality, and acting upon this seeming produces useful action.  So
> pragmatically, it makes sense to me to go along with the game.  Whether it's
> ultimately real or not.