[MD] The Dynamics of Value

[John Carl]

Jan-Anders,

Seems to me, you're magazine is  asking "what is the weight of an idea?"

Since that's a fairly weighty question, I take it as self-answering!

John




On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 5:22 AM, Jan-Anders <jananderses at telia.com> wrote:

> Hi Ham and John
>
> About is-ness and nothingness. Picked this question out from a Magazine.
>
> "What is the weight of the music in an iPod? As we know that there is some
> form of information downloaded into the iPod it must have some weight?"
>
> My answer is: (in some way related to Pirsigs writing of instruction books
> for Fortran computers. Lila. ch. ?)
>
> Computers have memory. When you load information into it it is not adding
> more mass or energy. The only thing that happens is that you Change the
> information from blank silence into sound. Instead of the zillion zero's in
> a row that is the factory presettings of the memory (silence or emptyness)
> you change the Pattern of the memory into a certain mix of 1's and 0's. The
> physical weight is unaltered but the pattern is altered. Value is
> independent from the downloaded pattern. The Value depends on the
> interaction between the iPod and the listener. It could be the complete
> works of Artie Schroeck. In that case silence would be of higher value?
>
> I do not have an iPod. The Value of having an iPod is nothingness to me as
> I still have my stereo equipment and my record collection in good condition.
> Which is somethingness.
>
> best
>
> Jan-Anders
>
> moq_discuss-request at lists.moqtalk.org wrote 2011-01-14 13.08:
>
>> Ham:
>>
>>
>>  >  There IS NO nothingness, which is why there is no otherness in
>>> Reality.
>>> >  The conclusion we can draw from this is that Existence is an
>>> "illusion" or
>>> >  (to borrow Hegel's word) "appearance".  Existence is a world of
>>> appearances
>>> >  where the phenomena experienced reflect the 'IS-ness' of the Absolute
>>> Source
>>> >  differentially.
>>> >
>>>
>> John:  I certainly agree about the lack of nothingness, but I'm not so
>> sure
>> about there being no otherness.  There sure SEEMS to be otherness in
>> Reality, and acting upon this seeming produces useful action.  So
>> pragmatically, it makes sense to me to go along with the game.  Whether
>> it's
>> ultimately real or not.
>>
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