[MD] The Dynamics of Value

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Hi J-A,

Interesting.  By sorting and encoding memory, we are creating
potential energy from kinetic.  What was once random (or all zero's),
becomes highly ordered with a purpose, that is to encode and release
music.  Since we know that energy is mass, and mass does not change,
the form of energy must change.  So while there is no additional
weight (I am assuming, but my quantum mechanics is not too good),
there is a conversion of energy.  A simple analogy would be building a
house out of bricks.  The weight of the bricks do not change, but
their entropy decreases.  The house then assumes a potential for
living in.  The memory creates a potential for generating music.

So, we have a conversion of your Pattern, to a form of energy.  You
probably already know this, since entropy decreases with pattern
formation.  So, if pattern is form of energy, does this change your
observations of dynamic quality?

Cheers,
Mark

On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 5:22 AM, Jan-Anders <jananderses at telia.com> wrote:
> Hi Ham and John
>
> About is-ness and nothingness. Picked this question out from a Magazine.
>
> "What is the weight of the music in an iPod? As we know that there is some
> form of information downloaded into the iPod it must have some weight?"
>
> My answer is: (in some way related to Pirsigs writing of instruction books
> for Fortran computers. Lila. ch. ?)
>
> Computers have memory. When you load information into it it is not adding
> more mass or energy. The only thing that happens is that you Change the
> information from blank silence into sound. Instead of the zillion zero's in
> a row that is the factory presettings of the memory (silence or emptyness)
> you change the Pattern of the memory into a certain mix of 1's and 0's. The
> physical weight is unaltered but the pattern is altered. Value is
> independent from the downloaded pattern. The Value depends on the
> interaction between the iPod and the listener. It could be the complete
> works of Artie Schroeck. In that case silence would be of higher value?
>
> I do not have an iPod. The Value of having an iPod is nothingness to me as I
> still have my stereo equipment and my record collection in good condition.
> Which is somethingness.
>
> best
>
> Jan-Anders
>
> moq_discuss-request at lists.moqtalk.org wrote 2011-01-14 13.08:
>>
>> Ham:
>>
>>
>>> >  There IS NO nothingness, which is why there is no otherness in
>>> > Reality.
>>> >  The conclusion we can draw from this is that Existence is an
>>> > "illusion" or
>>> >  (to borrow Hegel's word) "appearance".  Existence is a world of
>>> > appearances
>>> >  where the phenomena experienced reflect the 'IS-ness' of the Absolute
>>> > Source
>>> >  differentially.
>>> >
>>
>> John:  I certainly agree about the lack of nothingness, but I'm not so
>> sure
>> about there being no otherness.  There sure SEEMS to be otherness in
>> Reality, and acting upon this seeming produces useful action.  So
>> pragmatically, it makes sense to me to go along with the game.  Whether
>> it's
>> ultimately real or not.
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