[MD] The Dynamics of Value

[John Carl]

Hey Mark,

Just gonna give this a quick response, I'm typing between downs, watching
the Jets and the Patriots wind down in the final 2 mins...

Ooops!  Spoke too soon.  Patriots flubbed the onside kick attempt and Sean
Green just scored so this game is over.  Guess that means I'll pay closer
attention?

Mark:


> According to the Big Bang theory, codependent arising happened during
> the first instance of creation, that is the formation of matter and
> anti-matter.


John:

Now, it's not so much that I disbelieve this, it's just that I feel like
it's all theory and ideas and creation stories which have varying appeal to
various people.  I wasn't around then, so I dunno  from "anti-matter" or
turtles all the way down.  Some stories garner more enthusiasm than others,
and you scientific types are good at getting the most well-thought-out
cosmological stories so I'll take your word for it, but with a small caveat
(albeit over-used) well, that's ONE analogy for sure.


Mark:

 As the theory goes, there was just a little bit more
> matter than anti-matter, so that by the time one second came around,
> all the anti-matter was annihilated, and we were left with matter.
>

John:

One second, eh?  Of course, from a certain perspective, one second can be a
lifetime.  And given the relativistic effects of gravity and expanding
velocity of matter and all, perhaps that "one second" could be seen to still
be happening.  From the perspective of a photon or a hooloovoo.

Mark:



> So, while this somewhat conforms to your codependent arising, it does
> need a slight imbalance..  This would correlate well with your premise
> of reality, since there is a constant dance which implies imbalance.
> The same can be seen with the predator-prey analogy, they are never
> quite in sync or static, but constantly going through a over/under
> trend.
>
> So, codependent arising with inherent imbalance.  Could that imbalance
> be called Quality?  I think it can.  What do you think?
>
>

John:

It seems to me, that when we bring in Quality, we bring in intention of some
kind - a desire, or a yearning.  In that case, the universe IS because it
yearns to BE.

I mean, I know I sure do, so perhaps its just my projection.  But since we
obviously are, then somehow or somewhen, something somewhere must have
yearned for us to be.

And yes, I do call that yearning, "Quality".

yearningly yours,

John