[MD] [Bulk] Re: The Quality of Free Will

MarshaV valkyr at att.net
Tue Jul 19 00:51:39 PDT 2011


Andre,  

This seems an interesting way to change the subject of free-will & determinism without dmb conceding to Steve's argument.  


Marsha 





On Jul 19, 2011, at 3:37 AM, Andre Broersen wrote:

> Andre to Dave:
> Just another insert Dave. When I talked about "Leave it in the weather for a number of years and yeah, the changes are noticeable because dynamic influences occur at subatomic levels all the time. But for pragmatic reasons the notion of using 'ever changing' when you mean 'stable' or 'static' is confusing because misleading"... I should also have added the 'forces' of regeneration, the stabilizing quality to latch the advances made. It are these repeated patterns that make them stable, recognizable.
> 
> To add to the confusion Marsha has gotten herself into is that she now denies DQ as being change. She says: "I consider DQ to be indeterminate - unknowable, undefinable, and undividable - unpatterned".
> 
> Now, on its own this is a bit more like it. BUT she still considers DQ=sq and sq=DQ. She has said so repeatedly. She considers herself to be an ever changing pattern of...within a stable whatever. You work it out Dave because I can't anymore.
> 
> I agree with dmb: "sigh".


 
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