[MD] Freewill

[MarshaV]

On Jul 31, 2011, at 8:10 AM, Steven Peterson wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> Just back from the beach and catching up...
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> On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 9:58 AM, david buchanan <dmbuchanan at hotmail.com> wrote:
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>> Marsha asked four questions:
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>> Have you dropped the words 'free-will' and 'determinism'?  If you think within the MoQ that free-will and determinism have new definitions, please offer them...  If you are using new words please define them clearly? Please clearly explain the reformulation as you understand them? If you are not using 'free-will' and 'determinism' as defined in the dictionary, than you must agree that I was correct to neither accept 'free-will' and 'determinism', nor reject 'free-will' and 'determinism'.  They are irrelevant within the MoQ.  Of course, you are about to explain the new words to use and new understanding.
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>> dmb says:
>> No, I haven't dropped the terms. The MOQ framework but does not alter their basic definition. ("free will. noun. the power of acting without the constraint of necessity or fate; the ability to act at one's own discretion.") ("determine |diˈtərmin|verb [ trans. ]1 cause (something) to occur in a particular way; be the decisive factor in") These terms are not new and there are many ordinary words that can serve as alternatives, such as freedom and constraint. The MOQ puts these terms in a new metaphysical context wherein the laws of causality are replaced by patterns of preference and the choice between freedom and constraint are no longer mutually exclusive positions.
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> 
> Steve:
> Where I disagree with dmb is in that I think the MOQ reformulation of
> the question of freedom DOES significantly alter the basic definitions
> of free will and determinism. The MOQ rejects both horns of the
> traditional dilemma and reformulates the problem in a way that is
> incompatible with the traditional formulation rather than being some
> middle ground or saying that both sides are partially right.


Hi Steve,

Maybe he's a clever brujo. 


Marsha 





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