[MD] The reification issue completely misunderstood

[118]

Hi Joe,
I am not sure what words are manifestation of.  Perhaps you mean the static.  As it turns out, words help create the static.

Before we learn words, we live in dynamic quality.  Another creator of the static is our comparison to others.  This creates the static self.  This is a "manifestation" of the societal level.  This is created by the sense of "other", which happens at different ages.  The "terrible twos" is a representation of such awareness.  

Mark

On Jun 5, 2011, at 8:09 PM, Joseph  Maurer <jhmau at comcast.net> wrote:

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> On 6/5/11 3:49 PM, "118" <ununoctiums at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Hi Joe,
>> Quite the contrary, it is words that are soporific.  Words entrap one into the
>> static.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
> Hi Mark,
> 
> Words are a manifestation.  You have to be already trapped to manifest in a
> soporific mode.
> 
> Joe
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>> On Jun 5, 2011, at 12:09 PM, Joseph  Maurer <jhmau at comcast.net> wrote:
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>>> On 6/5/11 7:26 AM, "118" <ununoctiums at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>> Hi Marsha,
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>>>> On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 9:56 PM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
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>>>>> On Jun 3, 2011, at 3:33 PM, 118 wrote:
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>>>>>> Hi Marsha,
>>>>>> Yes, and Buddha claimed to be a common man, first.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> My question to you is: Taking out who you list below, who is left?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Mark,
>>>>> 
>>>>> An answer:  There is some experience of being awake.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Marsha
>>>>> 
>>>> [Mark]
>>>> Yes, Buddha was certainly "awake".  He help many others wake up during
>>>> his lifetime.  I think that much of this is relegating static quality
>>>> to the social level of words.
>>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> Hi Mark,
>>> 
>>> I guess deaf mutes are forbidden the social level, and cannot be awake!
>>> 
>>> Joe
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>>>>>> On Jun 3, 2011, at 10:18 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
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>>>>>>> On Jun 3, 2011, at 12:46 PM, david buchanan wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> And yet Marsha says she hates reification and loves Bo.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Marsha:
>>>>>>> I neither hate reification, nor love Bo, as you state it.   I already
>>>>>>> stated:  Reification represents how the common man and many scientists,
>>>>>>> academics and even philosophers think.  It evolved as tool to facilitate
>>>>>>> some kind of betterness.  But it is flawed and of course the MoQ can help
>>>>>>> rectify the flaw.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Well, actually, I love all, even you, can you believe it...
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ___
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