[MD] cloud of probability

[MarshaV]

Hi Mark,  


On Jun 8, 2011, at 11:48 PM, 118 wrote:

> Hi Marsha,
> 
> I was trying to understand what you mean by process.  I suppose this
> could be considered static since gravitation is fixed at a particular
> time.  It is my understanding that gravity represents the attraction
> of one thing for another.  We all exude gravity.  So that is one of
> its compositions.  I would consider it a process since it acts
> accordingly.  Other part of its composition are the laws which it
> appears to follow.  Gravity also warps space depending on its
> intensity, so warping is a property.  Gravity acts on all things
> including light, so that may be another.
> 
> Can't think of any more for now.
> 
> I remember asking you what the opposite of a chair is, many years ago.
> You replied that it is a non-chair.  This still does not make much
> sense to me, but it may be moving into Ham's metaphysics of Essence.
> So that which is opposite of Gravity would be negated for a short
> while into the world of relativity (no pun intended).
> 
> I am not sure if gravity follows the same laws as quantum mechanics.
> There has yet to be a theory of everything.  So far, cosmology and
> quantum mechanics are irreconcilable.
> 
> Thanks for your answer,
> 
> Mark

You might have just asked me what I meant by 'process.'  

Thank you for your reply.  


Marsha 






> On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 6:55 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>> 
>> going to clean this up a little
>> 
>> 
>> Hello again Mark,
>> 
>> If you were suggesting that 'gravitation' refers to a particular static pattern
>> of value, what exactly comprises (every last bit of it) that pattern?
>> 
>> Can such a question be answered?  If yes, what is the answer?  If no,
>> why not?
>> 
>> You might understand why, at the moment, I think the best answer would be:
>> all-that-is-opposite-from-non-gravitation, and I sometimes visualize the pattern
>> as a cloud of probability.
>> 
>> 
>> Marsha
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jun 7, 2011, at 4:37 AM, MarshaV wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Mark,
>>> 
>>> You ask a strange question.  'Gravitation' is a word; It  may be the name of a cat,
>>> dog or horse, or a conceptual theory.  At the very least it participates in a linguistic
>>> process.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Marsha
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jun 6, 2011, at 7:31 PM, 118 wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Marsha,
>>>> Is gravitation a process?
>>>> 
>>>> Mark
>>>> 
>>>> On Jun 6, 2011, at 1:58 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Here is my (conventional/static) definition of static patterns of value:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Static patterns of value are processes: impermanent,
>>>>> interdependent, ever-changing. (Not objects. Not subjects.
>>>>> Not things-in-themselves.)  Overlapping, interconnected,
>>>>> ever-changing processes that pragmatically tend to persist
>>>>> and change within a stable, predictable pattern.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Here's my (conventional/static) definition of reification:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Reification means treating any functioning phenomenon
>>>>> as if it were a real, permanent 'thing', rather than an
>>>>> impermanent process."
>>>>> 
>>>>> Reification represents how the common man, and many scientists,
>>>>> academics and even philosophers conceptualize.  It evolved as a tool to
>>>>> facilitate some kind of betterness.  But it is flawed and of course the MoQ
>>>>> and help rectify the flaw.  I have suggested that reification is either a part
>>>>> of the conceptualization process, or that there is a interdependency
>>>>> between conceptualization and reification.
>>>>> 
>>>>> But, of course, you are correct Mary.  Both 'conceptualization' and
>>>>> 'reification' are static patterns of value, conventional (relative) truths.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Marsha
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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