[MD] Free Will

MarshaV valkyr at att.net
Wed Jun 15 15:50:40 PDT 2011


On Jun 15, 2011, at 6:09 PM, david buchanan wrote:

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> dmb says:
> Okay, now we're talking about the same thing.
> But I don't think free will is bunk so much as the metaphysical entity behind it. Same with the notion that reality itself is a series of causes and effects. That's very metaphysical too.  These are the two basic metaphysical substances in subject-object metaphysics, of course. But, as you almost point out, the MOQ does not dispute the idea that freedom and constraint are real. The MOQ says DQ is the quality of freedom and sq is the quality of order. Without DQ nothing could grow or change and without sq nothing can last. Without static quality, DQ degenerates into chaos. With DQ, static quality would fossilize or die of old age. And it takes a living being to negotiate that balance. In that sense, freedom takes a lot of discipline. Static patterns don't determine what we will do but they limit what we can do. 
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Marsha:
Huh?  This is almost a good as you explaining how patterns and objects differ.  What nonsense...  
 
 
 
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