[MD] som unplugged - corrected lines

[Dan Glover]

Hello everyone

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 9:38 AM, John Carl <ridgecoyote at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello Dan and all,
>
>
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> Dan:
>>
>> And your choice is to leave your home and family behind in order to,
>> what... make a living? I don't know, John; it doesn't seem like much
>> of a choice to me. Of course, I don't know your circumstances, but
>> myself, it'd take a team of horses to drag me away. Just saying...
>>
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> John:
>
> Right Dan.  It's difficult to judge another's choices and circumstances.
>  For instance, it'd take a team of horses to drag me into the military -
> where men are gone for years from their families AND they are being shot at.
>  But given dire enough circumstances - a true threat from an enemy invasion
> or something, I would go.  This is considerably easier.  For one thing, I
> can fly home whenever I want and for another, nobody is shooting at me.

Dan:

Yes, I'd agree that military service isn't too appealing. I remember
growing up with the draft hanging over everyone's heads; seeing
friends and neighbors leaving for war in some faraway place called
Vietnam, and some of them never returning... waiting (with
trepidation) for when my turn came. Luckily (for me), they abolished
the draft the same year that I became eligible.

>John:
> But I'd say my motivation is more than just making a living.  I enjoy my
> work.  I enjoy building structure.  It's part of who I am and when I don't
> do it for a long time, I sorta lose my way.  Its like an artist bereft of
> their canvas or a musician without an instrument.  We humans express
> ourselves by what we do.  In California, there just isn't much for me to do.
>  Sure, I can survive there - "make a living".  But I can't get meaningful
> work there.  Too many guys in the same boat, competing for the few crumbs
> that the economic conditions toss their way.  Here its different.  My skills
> are in demand.  I am needed.  Furthermore, I find its better to be away from
> my family and have them miss me longingly, than to be around all the time
> and have them resent me.  So... different circumstances, indeed.

Dan:

That's interesting, actually. It sounds like a great adventure..
seeing fresh places, meeting new people. Good luck with your
endeavors.

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> Dan:
>
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>>
>> My thinking on Marsha's question is this: suffering comes first, while
>> the difficulties we face happen after the fact, in how we deal with
>> the suffering. And if not for suffering, there would be no need to be
>> free.
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> John:
>
> Equating suffering and freedom is interesting.  I'll have to think about
> that more but that does make a certain sense to me.
>
> Take care,

And you too. Cool saw, btw.

Dan