[MD] US democracy at work?

ADRIE KINTZIGER parser666 at gmail.com
Wed Mar 2 05:46:21 PST 2011


Voting here is an obligation, the fine's are very high if you don't vote.
how can this be called a democracy, a liberal model?

freedom!!!

2011/3/2 MarshaV <valkyr at att.net>

>
> Really, Ian,
>
> I would be more successful, standing on a soapbox, under the one
> traffic-light in
> this little town, lecturing one-and-all on the ever-changing,
> interdependence of
> static patterns of value.  I am, though, one of the town's deputy Registrar
> of Voters.
>
>
> Marsha
>
>
>
> On Mar 2, 2011, at 7:05 AM, Ian Glendinning wrote:
>
> > :-)
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 11:11 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> What are you talking about?   I'm looking for the White Rabbit.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mar 2, 2011, at 5:44 AM, Ian Glendinning wrote:
> >>
> >>> So stand yourself and stop whingeing about "they" maybe ?
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 10:35 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> In most elections the choice is between ass and arse; they both having
> >>>> concocted the election rules.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mar 2, 2011, at 4:18 AM, Ian Glendinning wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> John,
> >>>>> Sounds like your first mistake is a taxpayer electing people who
> don't care ?
> >>>>> Try better next time.
> >>>>> Ian
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 10:03 PM, John Carl <ridgecoyote at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>> Ian,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> A contract is a contract, whether your employer is public or
> private.
> >>>>>>> If public it is important that the "civil service" is separate from
> >>>>>>> partisan government, so that arrangements don't flip-flop with the
> >>>>>>> ballot box.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> What if the party contracting services, (govt.) sits down at the
> bargaining
> >>>>>> table with the party that got them elected (deep-pockets unions)?
>  Where are
> >>>>>> the checks and balances in such an equation?  No wonder pensions and
> >>>>>> benefits for public service employees have done nothing but go
> higher and
> >>>>>> higher.  Here in California, we saw this pattern displayed in full
> with the
> >>>>>> collusion of the prison guards and the teachers getting Gray Davis
> elected,
> >>>>>> just in time to renegotiate the sweetest deals imaginable.  However,
> once
> >>>>>> locked in, subsequent Republican administration (the governator) can
> do
> >>>>>> nothing to make those contracts void.  And really, what government
> official
> >>>>>> really cares?  It's the taxpayer who is screwed.
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