[MD] US democracy at work?

[MarshaV]

Democracy, a liberal model and freedom are intellectual 
static patterns of value.  Think about it.  -  Burp!   




On Mar 2, 2011, at 8:46 AM, ADRIE KINTZIGER wrote:

> Voting here is an obligation, the fine's are very high if you don't vote.
> how can this be called a democracy, a liberal model?
> 
> freedom!!!
> 
> 2011/3/2 MarshaV <valkyr at att.net>
> 
>> 
>> Really, Ian,
>> 
>> I would be more successful, standing on a soapbox, under the one
>> traffic-light in
>> this little town, lecturing one-and-all on the ever-changing,
>> interdependence of
>> static patterns of value.  I am, though, one of the town's deputy Registrar
>> of Voters.
>> 
>> 
>> Marsha
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 2, 2011, at 7:05 AM, Ian Glendinning wrote:
>> 
>>> :-)
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 11:11 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> What are you talking about?   I'm looking for the White Rabbit.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 2, 2011, at 5:44 AM, Ian Glendinning wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> So stand yourself and stop whingeing about "they" maybe ?
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 10:35 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> In most elections the choice is between ass and arse; they both having
>>>>>> concocted the election rules.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mar 2, 2011, at 4:18 AM, Ian Glendinning wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> John,
>>>>>>> Sounds like your first mistake is a taxpayer electing people who
>> don't care ?
>>>>>>> Try better next time.
>>>>>>> Ian
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 10:03 PM, John Carl <ridgecoyote at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Ian,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> A contract is a contract, whether your employer is public or
>> private.
>>>>>>>>> If public it is important that the "civil service" is separate from
>>>>>>>>> partisan government, so that arrangements don't flip-flop with the
>>>>>>>>> ballot box.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> What if the party contracting services, (govt.) sits down at the
>> bargaining
>>>>>>>> table with the party that got them elected (deep-pockets unions)?
>> Where are
>>>>>>>> the checks and balances in such an equation?  No wonder pensions and
>>>>>>>> benefits for public service employees have done nothing but go
>> higher and
>>>>>>>> higher.  Here in California, we saw this pattern displayed in full
>> with the
>>>>>>>> collusion of the prison guards and the teachers getting Gray Davis
>> elected,
>>>>>>>> just in time to renegotiate the sweetest deals imaginable.  However,
>> once
>>>>>>>> locked in, subsequent Republican administration (the governator) can
>> do
>>>>>>>> nothing to make those contracts void.  And really, what government
>> official
>>>>>>>> really cares?  It's the taxpayer who is screwed.
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