[MD] desires

[Andre Broersen]

John asked, and Mary seconded:

can you demonstrate any object or pattern that is truly static, in all of experience?

Andre:
Just a quick one here. The key words here are 'in all of experience'. The MOQ is a static intellectual pattern of value. The question suggests that Pirsig's MOQ IS experience, IS reality. This is NOT the case. It is a static (i.e. stable)intellectual description of... .

It is a finger pointing towards.

DQ is a static INTELLECTUAL REFERENCE to Quality. Experience cannot be contained IN a metaphysics no matter what it is called. This has been the fallacy of the 'container problem'. The MOQ is a static intellectual description of experience. It is NOT the experience itself.

Is this so difficult to fathom?

The logical conclusion towards which John, Mary, Mark , Marsha (did I leave anyone out?) are driving is nihilism, absolute relativism (and nothing in-between), frivolity, illusion. It stops all conversation, all dialogue because all is ever changing, nothing to hang your hat on...the street I walked on 2 minutes ago a roaring river the next (and I forgot to bring my boat). This is fallacy!

It is just silly. No, it is intellectually insulting and dishonest...Pirsig's LILA is quite clear on this. Start reading ....again.