[MD] desires

[MarshaV]

Andre,

My understanding is that static patterns of value are ever-changing, but change in a stable, 
predictable pattern.    

Please note the word 'stable.'   


Marsha  
 
 
 
 
On Mar 20, 2011, at 4:33 AM, Andre Broersen wrote:

> John asked, and Mary seconded:
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> can you demonstrate any object or pattern that is truly static, in all of experience?
> 
> Andre:
> Just a quick one here. The key words here are 'in all of experience'. The MOQ is a static intellectual pattern of value. The question suggests that Pirsig's MOQ IS experience, IS reality. This is NOT the case. It is a static (i.e. stable)intellectual description of... .
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> It is a finger pointing towards.
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> DQ is a static INTELLECTUAL REFERENCE to Quality. Experience cannot be contained IN a metaphysics no matter what it is called. This has been the fallacy of the 'container problem'. The MOQ is a static intellectual description of experience. It is NOT the experience itself.
> 
> Is this so difficult to fathom?
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> The logical conclusion towards which John, Mary, Mark , Marsha (did I leave anyone out?) are driving is nihilism, absolute relativism (and nothing in-between), frivolity, illusion. It stops all conversation, all dialogue because all is ever changing, nothing to hang your hat on...the street I walked on 2 minutes ago a roaring river the next (and I forgot to bring my boat). This is fallacy!
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> It is just silly. No, it is intellectually insulting and dishonest...Pirsig's LILA is quite clear on this. Start reading ....again.
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