[MD] It's a trap

[MarshaV]

Mark,

Oh my, Is that the truth?  

It's a conventional (static) statement and not an absolute statement, so there is no contradiction.  


Marsha



On Nov 6, 2011, at 10:46 AM, 118 wrote:

> Marsha,
> 
> 
> On Nov 4, 2011, at 8:48 PM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Mark,
>> 
>> It is quite easy for me to look beyond YOUR words to experience Quality(Dynamic/static).  Your cultural immune system may not understand this.  Possibly it is you who should reread RMP's books.  
>> 
>> What of yours do you think I need to get?  
> 
> That I am not giving you any truths.
> 
> Mark
>> 
>> Marsha 
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 4, 2011, at 7:32 PM, 118 wrote:
>> 
>>> Marsha,
>>> The fact that you think I want you to "mirror" my words shows that you have no idea what I am talking about.  The words are trivial when it comes to Quality; there are a million ways to say the same thing.  Just read the books by Pirsig on the subject of words.
>>> 
>>> As Aquinas is said to have uttered after he had a spiritual awakening, "...because all that I have written seems like straw to me", and he never finished the Summa Theologica.  One of the greatest syntheses of Religion and Aristotelian logic.
>>> 
>>> Do you get it now?
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> On Nov 4, 2011, at 5:34 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hello Ron,
>>>> 
>>>> Mark would have me mirror his words.  You too?  That's an obvious gumption trap.  Or to frame a discussion in words like 'trashing', 'denigrating' and 'revenge-attitude'.  
>>>> 
>>>> Mark prefers his "automatic writing".  That's great for him.   -  I prefer to speak in my own voice.  That's a type of freedom when you are not a member of the boy's club.   
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Marsha
>>>> 
>>>> ---  
>>>> 
>>>> THE HONEY TREE
>>>>     by Mary Oliver
>>>> 
>>>> And so at last I climbed
>>>> the honey tree, ate
>>>> chunks of pure light, ate
>>>> the bodies of bees that could not
>>>> get out of my way, ate
>>>> the dark hair of the leaves,
>>>> the rippling bark,
>>>> the heartwood. Such
>>>> frenzy! But joy does that,
>>>> I’m told, in the beginning.
>>>> Later, maybe,
>>>> I’ll come here only
>>>> sometimes and with a
>>>> middling hunger. But now
>>>> I climb like a snake,
>>>> I clamber like a bear to
>>>> the nuzzling place, to the light
>>>> salvaged by the thighs
>>>> of bees and racked up
>>>> in the body of the tree.
>>>> Oh, anyone can see
>>>> how I love myself at last!
>>>> how I love the world! climbing
>>>> by day or night
>>>> in the wind, in the leaves, kneeling
>>>> at the secret rip, the cords
>>>> of my body stretching
>>>> and singing in the
>>>> heaven of appetite.
>>>> 
>>>>        ---  
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Nov 4, 2011, at 8:11 AM, X Acto wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Marsha:
>>>>> I think your complaining, and you are beginning to sound like one of the complaining sock puppets, is hypocritical.  
>>>>> 
>>>>> By what standards of intellectual discourse do you write?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mark,
>>>>> Marsha, the name reffering to an everchanging pattern of Quality that has no
>>>>> existence, is a intellectual trap.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Any pattern that has no existence is a pattern that has no meaning, thus "marsha"
>>>>> is a false dilemma.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The pattern will call for clarity and supply none.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The pattern will call for standards and abide by none.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The more one attempts to "reason" politely the more one is ridiculed for trying.
>>>>> 
>>>>> A Gumption trap to be sure, layed out masterfully as intellecual bait. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Irrestistable to the unknowing  intellectual, the pattern will ever entice.
>>>>> 
>>>>> ....
>>>> 
>>>> 
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